KD in CA Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Joe B is pretty dialed in. But I get it. It’s cool to bash every single person w an opinion. Oh yeah also can’t wait to hear “next man’s up” 8 billion times. And doubly cool if that opinion was in any way favorable to a member of the Bills. 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: I was wondering if that might be a real possibility. Team is undefeated, he's been staying close mentoring Ed Oliver - who knows? I’m sure there is little to no chance, it’s just nice to think about.
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, One Buffalo said: Bummer... he has looked much better to start the year. Joe B's All-22 review from last week- (from the Athletic - https://theathletic.com/1219528/2019/09/17/bills-all-22-review-how-the-week-2-film-shows-josh-allen-set-his-new-gold-standard-and-grades-for-each-player/) I was a star defender last year. But focusing on him this year and I’m not impressed. He’s been getting a single blocker a lot while Oliver gets the double team and doesn’t do much with it. Just kinda stands there with the OL. Starting to think Jordan Phillips should start next to Ed. 2
Rocky Landing Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Dang. He was important depth, and worthy of being a starter on more than a few defenses in the league. Who takes his place?
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, Lurker said: Poof. Star's been doing his job, IMO. Which is not to be Aaron Donald or Geno Atkins. It's to absorb double teams and make the rest of the D more effective. Do you think we'd have the the defensive success we've had the last two years if he was under-performing? Jesus T. What is worrisome is that this defense depends on D-line rotation. They now need an interior DT option to spell Lotulelei, to the same extent the other guys on the line are rotated in and out. Beane and Malik Boyd have some work to do... Ed has been getting a lot of the double teams. Star hasn’t really done anything against single blockers to demand a double. 1
Lurker Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'm not a Star hater, in fact I defended his play all of last year. This year is a different story. His snap count was down to 34% yesterday. He's the backup depth now. There is an injury to the guy who is playing more than he is the last 2 games and he needs to step up his game. I would expect that from any player (especially a vet making the money he is) to do the same. He needs to do more than eat up blockers (which I know he does). Context. Star's snap count was likely down yesterday because Cincy went heavily to the passing game in the second half. That's not who or what Star is. It means more snaps for Harry and Jordan Phillips, who unquestionably are better equiped to handle that role. But I haven't seen anything yet that says the Bills are getting gashed up the middle by opposing RBs or that the D-line is not getting a strong center push on passing plays when Star is in the game. If anything we seem to be improved from a year ago in that respect. If you want to ***** about how much he's getting paid, that's something else. But in my mind, the Bills are getting what that thought they would from Star... 2
RyanC883 Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: I like the proactive nature of these guys. Hopefully a trade for Atkins! Or finding some additional good depth elsewhere in the league. Even a one year rental vet would be good
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I like the proactive nature of these guys. Hopefully a trade for Atkins! Or finding some additional good depth elsewhere in the league. Even a one year rental vet would be good I’m assuming it is more along the lines of signing a guy off of the PS. Probably Vincent Taylor from Miami who some thought was going to take Harry’s job anyway. Star is the starter and Harry only played 26 snaps yesterday. Edited September 23, 2019 by YoloinOhio
Augie Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, One Buffalo said: He's not the only source who has said Phillips has looked good this year. https://buffalowdown.com/2019/09/18/buffalo-bills-stock-report-week-2-win-giants/2/ https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/09/josh-allen-carries-the-day-as-buffalo-bills-beat-the-ny-giants-5-instant-observations.html https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/opinion/arrow-uparrow-down-bills-giants https://www.cover1.net/bills-vs-giants-standouts-josh-allen/ Just a few for starters. Glass half full? It will feel like we have an extra first round pick showing up for us next year. Get well, sir!
Cripple Creek Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Lurker said: Poof. Star's been doing his job, IMO. Which is not to be Aaron Donald or Geno Atkins. It's to absorb double teams and make the rest of the D more effective. Do you think we'd have the the defensive success we've had the last two years if he was under-performing? Jesus T. What is worrisome is that this defense depends on D-line rotation. They now need an interior DT option to spell Lotulelei, to the same extent the other guys on the line are rotated in and out. Beane and Malik Boyd have some work to do... If Star (in name only) is doing his job so well then why was Phillips getting the bulk of 4th quarter snaps?
Dopey Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: If Star (in name only) is doing his job so well then why was Phillips getting the bulk of 4th quarter snaps? I think Lurker did a good job of explaining this a few posts ago. 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m assuming it is more along the lines of signing a guy off of the PS. Probably Vincent Taylor from Miami who some thought was going to take Harry’s job anyway. Star is the starter and Harry only played 26 snaps yesterday. I've got film of a practice squad player at DT just blowing it up, sure it's only one play but he should've been given a chance over Harry,even though the coaching staff doesn't agree. Harry wasn't doing enough for this 3-0 team. He should have been replaced by this practice squad player all along! Hmmm, sounds familiar. Edit: Yolo, I'm not saying this to say you are saying this. Edited September 23, 2019 by Dopey
Ralonzo Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Yes. A number of them. Can we stop with the incessant hyperbole? There's literally 1000% chance that doesn't happen. 1
WideNine Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: That’s a tough loss. He was playing really well. Had a decent game against Barkley, was disciplined in his gaps, and has been bringing some pressure up the middle. Damn, he was really turning the corner and coming along this year. Wishing him a speedy and full recovery.
Cripple Creek Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Dopey said: I think Lurker did a good job of explaining this a few posts ago. I’m hard headed, can you try explaining it to me? Because, I thought that teams what their most effective players on the field at crunch time.
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Dopey said: I think Lurker did a good job of explaining this a few posts ago. I've got film of a practice squad player at DT just blowing it up, sure it's only one play but he should've been given a chance over Harry,even though the coaching staff doesn't agree. Harry wasn't doing enough for this 3-0 team. He should have been replaced by this practice squad player all along! Hmmm, sounds familiar. Edit: Yolo, I'm not saying this to say you are saying this. Not at all, but when they brought in Vincent Taylor, that narrative was out there 1
LABILLBACKER Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I was a star defender last year. But focusing on him this year and I’m not impressed. He’s been getting a single blocker a lot while Oliver gets the double team and doesn’t do much with it. Just kinda stands there with the OL. Starting to think Jordan Phillips should start next to Ed. Star has been somewhat of a disappointment. He's not worth the money but he does eat blockers. The problem is he does nothing else? I would have no problem seeing Ed & Jordan in there 66% of the time. 1
3rdand12 Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Mojo44 said: You got me too. Who is he he was the guy wearing the Pancho Sombrero coming out of the tunnel. and for good reason. Awesome Kid all around ad played some nice football for Us this season. best wishes Harry. get well asap Bills love you
BurpleBull Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Call up Kyle Peko; he stood out that final preseason game and was a big reason for the comeback win.
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Why the F couldn’t it have just been a bad spra8n, dammit. Out 4-6 weeks and then ease back in. f’n acl injuries. I never cheer this even with teams I hate...darn it.
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