John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) Not going to name the poster because that would be wrong....but basically saying that Josh "Deserved to take hits because of some bad throws" I just really want to say can ppl just think a minute before knee jerk reactions? I am not trying to censor and dont even have the ability to censor I would just ask you to think about what you are saying... I think we ALL would like this team to win....whether you love certain players hate certain players or whatever.....but this team is not going to go any further then Josh Allen takes them......he IS the most important player on the field.....unless Josh stays healthy and continues to improve his game we have NO SHOT at playing in a super bowl. Josh Allen taking hits is BAD and not funny He is going to make bad throws at times.....ALL of the QBs do He has actually put this team on his back so far this season.....TWICE to win games this year Edited September 23, 2019 by John from Riverside 11 3 5
Beast Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 You should know people say stupid things here. Some can’t even enjoy 3-0. 6 2
apuszczalowski Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Not going to name the poster because that would be wrong....but basically saying that Josh "Deserved to take hits because of some bad throws" I just really want to say can ppl just think a minute before knee jerk reactions? I am not trying to censor and dont even have the ability to censor I would just ask you to think about what you are saying... I think we ALL would like this team to win....whether you love certain players hate certain players or whatever.....but this team is not going to go any further then Josh Allen takes them......he IS the most important player on the field.....unless Josh stays healthy and continues to improve his game we have NO SHOT at playing in a super bowl. Josh Allen taking hits is BAD and not funny He is going to make bad throws at times.....ALL of the QBs do He has actually put this team on his back so far this season.....TWICE to win games this year I agree, thats just dumb Why would you want to see him potentially get hurt just because he made some bad throws. I doubt him getting hit is going to make him think he should have made a bad throw, and even the best QBs make some bad and dumb throws every game. Some just get lucky and have WRs bail them out making crazy catches 2
JaCrispy Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 We could win the super bowl and there would still probably be people bitching... 6 1
4merper4mer Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Although I agree with the OP, I'd like to say that IMO Brady deserves to take hits because he is a douche. 1 7 4
ny33 Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Not going to name the poster because that would be wrong....but basically saying that Josh "Deserved to take hits because of some bad throws" I just really want to say can ppl just think a minute before knee jerk reactions? I am not trying to censor and dont even have the ability to censor I would just ask you to think about what you are saying... I think we ALL would like this team to win....whether you love certain players hate certain players or whatever.....but this team is not going to go any further then Josh Allen takes them......he IS the most important player on the field.....unless Josh stays healthy and continues to improve his game we have NO SHOT at playing in a super bowl. Josh Allen taking hits is BAD and not funny He is going to make bad throws at times.....ALL of the QBs do He has actually put this team on his back so far this season.....TWICE to win games this year Anyone who wants to see a player get hurt to prove a point or out of spite that the Bills didn’t Mahomes needs some self-reflection. But Josh is probably going to keep taking some hard shots until he improves his blind side awareness and gets rid of the ball faster. Hopefully a full season under his belt helps him to make faster decisions (held the ball the longest last year), but right now he’s overexposing himself to injury and turnovers from loose blind side rushers if he keeps locking on to half the field or a single receiver. Was great to see him throw to Knox after evading the rush instead of just scrambling, and he’s doing a much better job of throwing the ball away instead of trying to use his physical gifts to extend the passing window by a few seconds. Every time someone misses an early block, especially from the blind side, I worry that he will get hurt trying to extend rather than just taking the sack. 1
CincyBillsFan Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: You should know people say stupid things here. Especially when they're taking ant-depressants and drinking heavily!
transient Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: Although I agree with the OP, I'd like to say that IMO Brady deserves to take hits because he is a douche. I think when he retires, before the league honors his paperwork, he should be required to take all of the hits that the officials have spared him from over the years in order to square the ledger... doesn’t have be on the field, but preferably there’d be a camera present to record it for posterity.
MiltonWaddams Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, transient said: I think when he retires, before the league honors his paperwork, he should be required to take all of the hits that the officials have spared him from over the years in order to square the ledger... doesn’t have be on the field, but preferably there’d be a camera present to record it for posterity. Dark. But completely understandable.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Thanks OP. What an exercise in sheer lunacy! Whoever said that is more than welcome to go root for a different team that doesn’t provide as much angst perhaps? However, Josh just captained the ship to 3-0, which puts us as one of I believe 8 total teams left that are still undefeated this year? That’s not nothing!
Gunsgoodtime Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, transient said: I think when he retires, before the league honors his paperwork, he should be required to take all of the hits that the officials have spared him from over the years in order to square the ledger... doesn’t have be on the field, but preferably there’d be a camera present to record it for posterity. He would be dead. I am a firm believer that Tom Brady rolls out on his wheelchair at 80, and there is a nfl rule that you cant hit Tom Brady, and they continue to win Super Bowls.
DrPJax Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Hi. I am going to admit it was me who posted that and I said it sarcastically, jokingly, and as I was smiling as white sealed the game with the int. Sorry sometimes it’s hard to always get the right context reading a text, wouldn’t you agree? Maybe I should have put it in caps or highlighted it or put out a formal disclaimer. Well , no , I shouldn’t. I don’t owe you anything. I have been a loyal fan for 40 years plus, attended two Sb (27 & 28) ,endured losing in almost every possible fashion after becoming a non stop Bills fan in 1963. While I hate to see my Bills lose , believe me it has no effect on me past the last quarter of the game. I’ve noticed if anyone says anything at all regarding poor play at times immediately there are some people here ready to jump to personal attacks and unfortunately people are very willing to be nothing short of mean at times. I was in the shout box and was personally attacked over just making a statement that imho if the bills keep turning the ball over and the o keeps stalling , we will probably have a difficult time beating the patriots. I think history supports this fact and until the Bills best the pats a few times, logical thinking makes me take a wait and see response to the current success. Doesn’t mean I don’t love the wins, I do. But I am also not just blindly with my head in the clouds walking around thinking we are on the same competitive level with the pats yet. Hey, it’s my opinion, and I’m entitled to it. Why do I have my “ loyalty” questioned when we have two decades of frustration after all the success of the 4 SB era? Quit taking yourselves so seriously , it’s a game for entertainment and that’s all it is. I have been a practicing physician in Jax for over 30 years and my whole life has been based on helping people and I am a totally nonviolent person. If you took the time to know me as a person you would know I would never want a person to be hurt or get hit over a silly game. I was making a light hearted joke at the time because For ME , football is just a small interest in my life that has no real life day to day ramifications. I deal with real life illness , people going thru unimaginable suffering and loss, being with families as they lose loved ones from terrible REAL LIFE situations like cancer, infectious disease, and all the myriad of human conditions that we will all eventually experience. Please know Bills football is a distraction; it’s not a thing vital to you having a good quality life, won’t make you a good human who is loving to your family or community, won’t make you a good son , or parent, and your fandom will probably not be how your life is ultimately viewed as your higher purpose as a human being. Trust me in this as I have been with many people on their death beds and football has not one time ever come up as we talked about what a dying patient wished to be remembered for or what they found was important to their existence. Please remember, THIS IS A GAME, played by highly skilled athletes who participate voluntarily and know they are in a contact violent sport where it’s a given they won’t make it out without being hit at some point, but they know they are being rewarded handsomely for the risks they take. It’s like being in medicine. You are exposed to life threatening illness by body fluid exposure, and you make many sacrifices to EARN the honor of people entrusting their lives with your care. I spent my 21st birthday studying in a cadaver lab in July while most of my non-physician friends went out partying and drinking themselves silly as they became “ legal”. Good for them , but good for me too because I chose to make that sacrifice to have the honor of entering a very select field and 35 years later I couldn’t be happier having seen how kind and gracious people are in real life, facing real life and end life situations. Believe me, Bills football is not going to offer you salvation my friend. Take it and the discussions about everything associated with it as it is intended to be: a light hearted hobby with no real life consequences for you because in reality that’s all it is. I appreciate you didn’t name me outright and I only chose to reply because I don’t need your validation for anything to be happy in my life. I am replying as a public service because I am slightly saddened to see this amazing forum become a place where posters are personally attacked if they offer any opinion that is deemed inappropriate for a “ true” fan to have. I have seen whole threads being critical about people who have offered any well thought out criticism over the quality of the Bills play in these somewhat fortunate wins. Let’s not forget they have been behind in all three games. I don’t think the pats have trailed yet this year have they ? So while a win is a win, I imagine we all know there is more involved around how that end goal was reached. It just means despite the wins there is obvious room for improvement and I think the coaches and players are the first to be self critical about these past three games. To think otherwise is delusional. So if one is critical of some of their play , does that mean that person is not a fan or not as good or worthy a fan as YOU or someone who only is focused on the w or l involved? That’s a pretty superficial way of Looking at a hobby that has many different strategies and a plethora of ways to evaluate performance. My point is before calling out other posters or opinions or questioning their “ Loyalty “ , take a step back and ask why does your viewpoint have any higher intrinsic value. The fact is, it doesn’t. Have an open mind. Demonstrate some maturity and don’t strike out so impulsively. Be kind to other posters. Allow them the respect you would want as you post you non factual “ opinion”. If you don’t know a poster personally, perhaps have some pause before launching personal attacks or questioning their motives or judging their fandom. Be responsible for what you post and stop jumping to value based conclusions that are really no more than your own biased opinions about a hobby that is meant as a distraction in life and not something to determine the actual quality of your life. Be sure you are not revealing more inadequacies or superficialities about your own insights and values as you are calling out others for their supposed lack of loyalty or placing your misguided interpretations on things written in a forum where it’s impossible to know the context accurately. Is it that hard to just be nice to people, especially those already on a forum for those with a basic commonality, the Bills? Thanks and I wish you a happy week. Go Bills.
Chandler#81 Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Well.. I feel properly scolded. Now GETOFFMYLAWN, Whippersnapper! 1 1
Numark3 Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, DrPJax said: Hi. I am going to admit it was me who posted that and I said it sarcastically, jokingly, and as I was smiling as white sealed the game with the int. Sorry sometimes it’s hard to always get the right context reading a text, wouldn’t you agree? Maybe I should have put it in caps or highlighted it or put out a formal disclaimer. Well , no , I shouldn’t. I don’t owe you anything. I have been a loyal fan for 40 years plus, attended two Sb (27 & 28) ,endured losing in almost every possible fashion after becoming a non stop Bills fan in 1963. While I hate to see my Bills lose , believe me it has no effect on me past the last quarter of the game. I’ve noticed if anyone says anything at all regarding poor play at times immediately there are some people here ready to jump to personal attacks and unfortunately people are very willing to be nothing short of mean at times. I was in the shout box and was personally attacked over just making a statement that imho if the bills keep turning the ball over and the o keeps stalling , we will probably have a difficult time beating the patriots. I think history supports this fact and until the Bills best the pats a few times, logical thinking makes me take a wait and see response to the current success. Doesn’t mean I don’t love the wins, I do. But I am also not just blindly with my head in the clouds walking around thinking we are on the same competitive level with the pats yet. Hey, it’s my opinion, and I’m entitled to it. Why do I have my “ loyalty” questioned when we have two decades of frustration after all the success of the 4 SB era? Quit taking yourselves so seriously , it’s a game for entertainment and that’s all it is. I have been a practicing physician in Jax for over 30 years and my whole life has been based on helping people and I am a totally nonviolent person. If you took the time to know me as a person you would know I would never want a person to be hurt or get hit over a silly game. I was making a light hearted joke at the time because For ME , football is just a small interest in my life that has no real life day to day ramifications. I deal with real life illness , people going thru unimaginable suffering and loss, being with families as they lose loved ones from terrible REAL LIFE situations like cancer, infectious disease, and all the myriad of human conditions that we will all eventually experience. Please know Bills football is a distraction; it’s not a thing vital to you having a good quality life, won’t make you a good human who is loving to your family or community, won’t make you a good son , or parent, and your fandom will probably not be how your life is ultimately viewed as your higher purpose as a human being. Trust me in this as I have been with many people on their death beds and football has not one time ever come up as we talked about what a dying patient wished to be remembered for or what they found was important to their existence. Please remember, THIS IS A GAME, played by highly skilled athletes who participate voluntarily and know they are in a contact violent sport where it’s a given they won’t make it out without being hit at some point, but they know they are being rewarded handsomely for the risks they take. It’s like being in medicine. You are exposed to life threatening illness by body fluid exposure, and you make many sacrifices to EARN the honor of people entrusting their lives with your care. I spent my 21st birthday studying in a cadaver lab in July while most of my non-physician friends went out partying and drinking themselves silly as they became “ legal”. Good for them , but good for me too because I chose to make that sacrifice to have the honor of entering a very select field and 35 years later I couldn’t be happier having seen how kind and gracious people are in real life, facing real life and end life situations. Believe me, Bills football is not going to offer you salvation my friend. Take it and the discussions about everything associated with it as it is intended to be: a light hearted hobby with no real life consequences for you because in reality that’s all it is. I appreciate you didn’t name me outright and I only chose to reply because I don’t need your validation for anything to be happy in my life. I am replying as a public service because I am slightly saddened to see this amazing forum become a place where posters are personally attacked if they offer any opinion that is deemed inappropriate for a “ true” fan to have. I have seen whole threads being critical about people who have offered any well thought out criticism over the quality of the Bills play in these somewhat fortunate wins. Let’s not forget they have been behind in all three games. I don’t think the pats have trailed yet this year have they ? So while a win is a win, I imagine we all know there is more involved around how that end goal was reached. It just means despite the wins there is obvious room for improvement and I think the coaches and players are the first to be self critical about these past three games. To think otherwise is delusional. So if one is critical of some of their play , does that mean that person is not a fan or not as good or worthy a fan as YOU or someone who only is focused on the w or l involved? That’s a pretty superficial way of Looking at a hobby that has many different strategies and a plethora of ways to evaluate performance. My point is before calling out other posters or opinions or questioning their “ Loyalty “ , take a step back and ask why does your viewpoint have any higher intrinsic value. The fact is, it doesn’t. Have an open mind. Demonstrate some maturity and don’t strike out so impulsively. Be kind to other posters. Allow them the respect you would want as you post you non factual “ opinion”. If you don’t know a poster personally, perhaps have some pause before launching personal attacks or questioning their motives or judging their fandom. Be responsible for what you post and stop jumping to value based conclusions that are really no more than your own biased opinions about a hobby that is meant as a distraction in life and not something to determine the actual quality of your life. Be sure you are not revealing more inadequacies or superficialities about your own insights and values as you are calling out others for their supposed lack of loyalty or placing your misguided interpretations on things written in a forum where it’s impossible to know the context accurately. Is it that hard to just be nice to people, especially those already on a forum for those with a basic commonality, the Bills? Thanks and I wish you a happy week. Go Bills. WOAH that is a wildly absurd response based on someone calling you out for saying Allen deserved to take hits, even if it was sarcastic. You made an inappropriate conduct, carry on. Edited September 23, 2019 by Crayola64
US Egg Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 A tribute, sort of, maybe not, to this thread:
Westside Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 I admit it was me who posted that.........j/k ?
Nextmanup Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, DrPJax said: Hi. I am going to admit it was me who posted that and I said it sarcastically, jokingly, and as I was smiling as white sealed the game with the int. Sorry sometimes it’s hard to always get the right context reading a text, wouldn’t you agree? Maybe I should have put it in caps or highlighted it or put out a formal disclaimer. Well , no , I shouldn’t. I don’t owe you anything. I have been a loyal fan for 40 years plus, attended two Sb (27 & 28) ,endured losing in almost every possible fashion after becoming a non stop Bills fan in 1963. While I hate to see my Bills lose , believe me it has no effect on me past the last quarter of the game. I’ve noticed if anyone says anything at all regarding poor play at times immediately there are some people here ready to jump to personal attacks and unfortunately people are very willing to be nothing short of mean at times. I was in the shout box and was personally attacked over just making a statement that imho if the bills keep turning the ball over and the o keeps stalling , we will probably have a difficult time beating the patriots. I think history supports this fact and until the Bills best the pats a few times, logical thinking makes me take a wait and see response to the current success. Doesn’t mean I don’t love the wins, I do. But I am also not just blindly with my head in the clouds walking around thinking we are on the same competitive level with the pats yet. Hey, it’s my opinion, and I’m entitled to it. Why do I have my “ loyalty” questioned when we have two decades of frustration after all the success of the 4 SB era? Quit taking yourselves so seriously , it’s a game for entertainment and that’s all it is. I have been a practicing physician in Jax for over 30 years and my whole life has been based on helping people and I am a totally nonviolent person. If you took the time to know me as a person you would know I would never want a person to be hurt or get hit over a silly game. I was making a light hearted joke at the time because For ME , football is just a small interest in my life that has no real life day to day ramifications. I deal with real life illness , people going thru unimaginable suffering and loss, being with families as they lose loved ones from terrible REAL LIFE situations like cancer, infectious disease, and all the myriad of human conditions that we will all eventually experience. Please know Bills football is a distraction; it’s not a thing vital to you having a good quality life, won’t make you a good human who is loving to your family or community, won’t make you a good son , or parent, and your fandom will probably not be how your life is ultimately viewed as your higher purpose as a human being. Trust me in this as I have been with many people on their death beds and football has not one time ever come up as we talked about what a dying patient wished to be remembered for or what they found was important to their existence. Please remember, THIS IS A GAME, played by highly skilled athletes who participate voluntarily and know they are in a contact violent sport where it’s a given they won’t make it out without being hit at some point, but they know they are being rewarded handsomely for the risks they take. It’s like being in medicine. You are exposed to life threatening illness by body fluid exposure, and you make many sacrifices to EARN the honor of people entrusting their lives with your care. I spent my 21st birthday studying in a cadaver lab in July while most of my non-physician friends went out partying and drinking themselves silly as they became “ legal”. Good for them , but good for me too because I chose to make that sacrifice to have the honor of entering a very select field and 35 years later I couldn’t be happier having seen how kind and gracious people are in real life, facing real life and end life situations. Believe me, Bills football is not going to offer you salvation my friend. Take it and the discussions about everything associated with it as it is intended to be: a light hearted hobby with no real life consequences for you because in reality that’s all it is. I appreciate you didn’t name me outright and I only chose to reply because I don’t need your validation for anything to be happy in my life. I am replying as a public service because I am slightly saddened to see this amazing forum become a place where posters are personally attacked if they offer any opinion that is deemed inappropriate for a “ true” fan to have. I have seen whole threads being critical about people who have offered any well thought out criticism over the quality of the Bills play in these somewhat fortunate wins. Let’s not forget they have been behind in all three games. I don’t think the pats have trailed yet this year have they ? So while a win is a win, I imagine we all know there is more involved around how that end goal was reached. It just means despite the wins there is obvious room for improvement and I think the coaches and players are the first to be self critical about these past three games. To think otherwise is delusional. So if one is critical of some of their play , does that mean that person is not a fan or not as good or worthy a fan as YOU or someone who only is focused on the w or l involved? That’s a pretty superficial way of Looking at a hobby that has many different strategies and a plethora of ways to evaluate performance. My point is before calling out other posters or opinions or questioning their “ Loyalty “ , take a step back and ask why does your viewpoint have any higher intrinsic value. The fact is, it doesn’t. Have an open mind. Demonstrate some maturity and don’t strike out so impulsively. Be kind to other posters. Allow them the respect you would want as you post you non factual “ opinion”. If you don’t know a poster personally, perhaps have some pause before launching personal attacks or questioning their motives or judging their fandom. Be responsible for what you post and stop jumping to value based conclusions that are really no more than your own biased opinions about a hobby that is meant as a distraction in life and not something to determine the actual quality of your life. Be sure you are not revealing more inadequacies or superficialities about your own insights and values as you are calling out others for their supposed lack of loyalty or placing your misguided interpretations on things written in a forum where it’s impossible to know the context accurately. Is it that hard to just be nice to people, especially those already on a forum for those with a basic commonality, the Bills? Thanks and I wish you a happy week. Go Bills. If you are going to write a novella here, how about using some f-ing paragraphs? Thanks. 1
Xwnyer Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: If you are going to write a novella here, how about using some f-ing paragraphs? Thanks. I gave up reading after first or second sentence
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