Rocket94 Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, JoeF said: In the end, I think AB just rubbed Kraft the wrong way... (credit: Read it on twitter but thought it was funny) So he was overrated all along! 1
Buffalo Boy Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They still owe it. It was guaranteed. I don’t believe so. They said his bonus money hadn’t been paid and it was a “ Detrimental to the team” clause. The Pats FO is a lot of things but they aren’t that stupid
ko12010 Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: How can you make that guarantee? Based on your responses and assertions. You have an aggressive, hostile, egotistic nature that paints an accurate picture of who you are and how you operate. Hostility and blanket assertions to something you simply just don't know about--which is not a big deal--shows you have a very conditioned mind. If I don't know about something I listen and like to learn about it--I don't dismiss anything outright. Have a good night.
HomeTeam Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 I hope Antonio can take some time to reflect and heal. It's sad, pride is a very dangerous and slippery thing. I hope he can turn his life around.
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I don’t believe so. They said his bonus money hadn’t been paid and it was a “ Detrimental to the team” clause. The Pats FO is a lot of things but they aren’t that stupid They did put clauses in the contract, but those are standard and not special to them or him. they can’t just make the determination themselves that he was detrimental. If they refuse to pay he can file a grievance and fight that through arbritration and they may or may not have to pay the two gtd payments left of 5 mill and 4 mill. Per Albert breer, The 5 mill due on Monday is a signing bonus and recovering signing bonus money is more difficult, as that is covered under the CBA, not individual contracts. One way to get signing bonus money back is non-disclosure. The reality is that the burden of proof will be on the Patriots to provide hard evidence that they had no knowledge of the allegations prior to his signing. Most everyone believes Rosenhaus gave belichick a heads up. Edited September 21, 2019 by YoloinOhio 3 1
Rochesterfan Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I don’t believe so. They said his bonus money hadn’t been paid and it was a “ Detrimental to the team” clause. The Pats FO is a lot of things but they aren’t that stupid The first payment is due this coming Monday. The detrimental to the team clause will need to be decided by an arbitrator if NE refuses to pay and AB demands payment based on the collective bargaining agreement. So at this moment- NE is on the hook for the money. 1 1
Buffalo Boy Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: The first payment is due this coming Monday. The detrimental to the team clause will need to be decided by an arbitrator if NE refuses to pay and AB demands payment based on the collective bargaining agreement. So at this moment- NE is on the hook for the money. Well, my hope is it is a big ugly mess and the Pats are distracted by it? 2 1
MJS Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: Well, my hope is it is a big ugly mess and the Pats are distracted by it? Wish it would have happened 1 week from now, if that's the case. 1
1st&ten Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 Pat's should lose a draft pick just for signing this A***hole. 1
LSHMEAB Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, ko12010 said: I'll be passing this on to the proper people. Have a drink and relax my friend. It's Friday night and the world is yours. For me, the whole AB thing has turned into a soap opera and thus lost all appeal. I'll watch TMZ if I want to see celebrity gossip(which I don't). Couldn't care less about the guy's personal life. I'll tune back in if/when he returns to an NFL roster. 1 1
Royale with Cheese Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ko12010 said: Based on your responses and assertions. You have an aggressive, hostile, egotistic nature that paints an accurate picture of who you are and how you operate. Hostility and blanket assertions to something you simply just don't know about--which is not a big deal--shows you have a very conditioned mind. If I don't know about something I listen and like to learn about it--I don't dismiss anything outright. Have a good night. According to research, the mind has between 60,000-80,000 thoughts per day. I’ve lived approximately 13,000 days. You’re telling me that in my roughly 910,000,000 thoughts...not at least one has been original? That’s pretty incredible....you’d think I’d get lucky once. Edited September 21, 2019 by Royale with Cheese 1 4 1
bbb Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 Charlie Sheen thinks this guy is off the rails 1
Royale with Cheese Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 No wait! When I was 18, I invented the Snuggie. I was a poor college student and in the winter I wouldn’t use my heat to save money. I went to WalMart and bought a XXL bathrobe ...put it on backwards so I could cover up and have sleeves. Then I saw the Snuggie commercial a few years later and saw that it sold over 1,000,000 blankets. I was so devastated that I started drinking a lot and became a huge Nickelback fan. Those were some bad years... 5
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He did it all wrong. If he had only broken his kids arm while choking the kids mom or beaten the kids ***** bloody with a whip, he would be fine. He’s so dumb! So sad, so true for the hypocrisy pervading many teams in the league. 1
sven233 Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) Denlesks @Denlesks· 5h Patriots owner Robert Kraft said Antonio Brown played well but rubbed him the wrong way He does know what he likes....... Edited September 21, 2019 by sven233 2
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: They did put clauses in the contract, but those are standard and not special to them or him. they can’t just make the determination themselves that he was detrimental. If they refuse to pay he can file a grievance and fight that through arbritration and they may or may not have to pay the two gtd payments left of 5 mill and 4 mill. Per Albert breer, The 5 mill due on Monday is a signing bonus and recovering signing bonus money is more difficult, as that is covered under the CBA, not individual contracts. One way to get signing bonus money back is non-disclosure. The reality is that the burden of proof will be on the Patriots to provide hard evidence that they had no knowledge of the allegations prior to his signing. Most everyone believes Rosenhaus gave belichick a heads up. AB better be saving those shekels as his window appears to be closing on further lucrative NFL checks...but then again he’s been saving some already at the expense of many who’ve had to chase him down for nonpayment, so he must be playing 4D chess of his own?
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 What I just have to shake my head at, from what was written before this woman filed the suit against him, they were working on getting signed a confidential agreement which would have paid her an undisclosed amount of cash in turn for her forgetting this ever happened. But AB said no at the 11th hour so she sued. Seems like another example of him just thinking he's bigger than everyone else, he doesn't need to sign this and everything will be fine. How many millions is he costing himself. Agents get paid is it 10% of the contract, seems Drew is working overtime for little return on the $$. Wonder next if he'll be dropping him.
SydneyBillsFan Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 6 hours ago, stevewin said: What if it wasnt possible for your "respect" for the club to be undermined any further? Yeah, that would be kind of like limbo dancing under the belly of an alligator
mathja Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: No wait! When I was 18, I invented the Snuggie. I was a poor college student and in the winter I wouldn’t use my heat to save money. I went to WalMart and bought a XXL bathrobe ...put it on backwards so I could cover up and have sleeves. Then I saw the Snuggie commercial a few years later and saw that it sold over 1,000,000 blankets. I was so devastated that I started drinking a lot and became a huge Nickelback fan. Those were some bad years... Sick ending to that story.
Cmdjr85 Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, ko12010 said: For anyone confused, this is what is happening w the AB saga. Larry Johnson is 100% on point here. AB was first accused of rape May 20, 2018. Signed by the Pats* September 7, 2019. Span of 68 weeks. 'Rape = 68 in the reverse ordinal numerology cipher. 68 days since his birthday (July 10). Today's date is 9/20/2019. 9+20+20+19=68. Antonio Tavaris Brown = 263 in the reverse ordinal numerology cipher. September 20 is the 263rd day of the year. Ritual in full display. Laugh if you want but these numbers and word values aligning this way is mathematically impossible. Lol the work of zack the YouTube freak
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