ALF Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 The high cost of cable , satellite , looks good now on HDTV
Chandler#81 Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 33 minutes ago, thronethinker said: Teams are pricing the fans out of the stadiums. Plus the view is much better at home, just not the atmosphere though. Depends..
Mark Vader Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: This statement is more true than you think. UCLA can't even get students to come to the Rose Bowl anymore. Unless you offer free wifi and electronics.... Do the students even know what their team is called the Bruins? 1
Augie Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I made a comment along these lines yesterday. Everything moves in cycles and the phenomenal success enjoyed by the NFL won't stay that way forever. Is the NFL actually losing steam, or are people just leaning more towards viewing from the comfort of their couch on their giant HD TV’s? The couch involves no traffic, no parking costs or hassles, perfect weather, your own food and drink at grocery store prices and a readily accessible and hopefully clean bathroom, plus all the other obvious advantages. I’m not saying that’s the entire reason, I’m just wondering what’s driving this and that has to be one factor. When I was younger you only got the game they gave you and you watched it on your crappy little TV. Very different times, but maybe not worse for the NFL....just different? I think there is a very good reason stadiums tend to be getting smaller. . Edited September 19, 2019 by Augie 2
Augie Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: This statement is more true than you think. UCLA can't even get students to come to the Rose Bowl anymore. Unless you offer free wifi and electronics.... I’ve not been to a game in Gainesville, but friends tell me they have a hard time getting and keeping students at Univ of Florida home games. Poor cell reception is said to be the leading cause. 55 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I strongly agree. I have lots of friends who refuse to even watch the NFL on TV. I have a friend who hasn’t watched an NFL game since the strike back in the 80’s. These things hurt them long-term, and they know that! 2
Augie Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Depends.. Can I get a #12 and a beer to go, please? ? 1
stosh64 Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, Greybeard said: I don't pay attention to NASCAR, so I have to ask, is their crowd starting to "age out." IMO, that is a big part of it. However, the older fans have stopped watching in droves due to all the 'fixes' and 'improvements'. Trying to make it 'fair' by making all cars clones of each other, changing the rules to appeal to a younger audience (stage racing and new chase for the cup playoffs). Nascar was great in the 80's and 90's, then they tried to improve something that did not need improving and fix something that wasn't broken. While trying to get new young fans interested is a BIG problem, it would be much easier to get them interested if nascar didn't totally ruin a great thing thus driving away their base of fans. 1
Mr. WEO Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, iinii said: Why does this need to be explained again and again and....? I think it needs another thread! 1
ddaryl Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Depends.. Fix this as we would want it to be all inclusive for those who may have slightly different tastes. 1 2
mrags Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 More people having better TVs at home. Computers at their side with all their fantasy updates to the minute. Sitting on the couch in their underwear all day. The only thing is, if that were true, the tv ratings would increase significantly over the last few years and it’s just not overall. Id dare say that society as a whole is turning itself off of football due to the fact that parents are starting to see the health risks to it. In that same breath, I’d bet that Baseball ratings and attendance are up over the last few years. As is Basketball.
reddogblitz Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Ned Flanders said: But the TV product is just so damn good these days, especially if you're a fantasy guy, which I'm not. Redzone, HD, convenience to home amenities...going to a live sporting event today is just not worth it. Baseball is hemorrhaging worse than the NFL.. I'm going to disagree on the TV product being damn good. Technically and variety, yes, but entertainment not so much. The instant replay reviews and the refs standing around trying to figure out what the rules are is making it almost unwatchable. There was always too much lag time with all the time outs. But now it's ridiculous. Thank goodness I have TIVO and can fast forward through all that. College football is even worse.
MJS Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 Teams make their money from TV. The stadiums could be empty and they'd still be making billions.
Troll Toll Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 Empty stadiums is horrible for league image (in my opinion). They need to lower the costs of parking and concessions if they want an electric atmosphere on TV. I simply won’t watch other team’s games if there is no atmosphere of importance in the stadium.
Jrb1979 Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 They need to bring back the blackout rule. If you want to see your team play, watch them at the stadium.
thronethinker Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, stosh64 said: IMO, that is a big part of it. However, the older fans have stopped watching in droves due to all the 'fixes' and 'improvements'. Trying to make it 'fair' by making all cars clones of each other, changing the rules to appeal to a younger audience (stage racing and new chase for the cup playoffs). Nascar was great in the 80's and 90's, then they tried to improve something that did not need improving and fix something that wasn't broken. While trying to get new young fans interested is a BIG problem, it would be much easier to get them interested if nascar didn't totally ruin a great thing thus driving away their base of fans. NASCAR has been sinking since Earnhardt was killed at Daytona. He was the biggest draw and most popular/hated driver. NASCAR never got another driver with that type of draw. Edited September 20, 2019 by thronethinker 2
plenzmd1 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Posted September 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: I strongly agree. I have lots of friends who refuse to even watch the NFL on TV. this post is so wrong..no way you have " lots of friends" ? BTW, a good 15K people at the game tonight!! 1
US Egg Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, thronethinker said: NASCAR has been sinking since Earnhardt was killed at Daytona. He was the biggest draw and most popular/hated driver. NASCAR never got another driver with that type of draw. Spent a couple weeks in a beautiful oceanfront property in Alabama's "Red Neck Riviera" in 2015. Got talking NASCAR with hardcore loyal Tallegada attendees on the beach. They enlightened me. Not that they spoke for all the NASCAR drop off then, but their sentiment had merit I didn't see. Edited September 20, 2019 by I am the egg man
Augie Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Attendance is one thing. Are there revenue woes? That’s the bottom line. What does the future look like? ”Different” is fine, if you adapt. 1
Reks Ryan Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 I am thinking the opposite on prices. I usually go to 1 home game and at least 1 road Bills game per season. Just paid the most I’ve ever spent for Bills Reg season game. to get tickets to see then beat the Patriots. 1
apuszczalowski Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Augie said: Is the NFL actually losing steam, or are people just leaning more towards viewing from the comfort of their couch on their giant HD TV’s? The couch involves no traffic, no parking costs or hassles, perfect weather, your own food and drink at grocery store prices and a readily accessible and hopefully clean bathroom, plus all the other obvious advantages. I’m not saying that’s the entire reason, I’m just wondering what’s driving this and that has to be one factor. When I was younger you only got the game they gave you and you watched it on your crappy little TV. Very different times, but maybe not worse for the NFL....just different? I think there is a very good reason stadiums tend to be getting smaller. . But what's the tailgate situation like at home? If you drink that much in a stadium parking lot you're a 'hardcore fan', drink that much on your couch and you're an 'alcoholic'..... Edited September 20, 2019 by apuszczalowski 1
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