njbuff Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) I'm so tired of these ridiculous games these Democrats play. They know it games. I know it's games. And you know its games. It's all because they can't get over the results of the 2016 Presidential election. They can't stand the fact that human beings would rather vote for Trump (63,000,000+ to be exact) rather than their queen Hillary. They don't have Presidential power and Trump has been driving them insane since he announced his candidacy in 2015 coming down that escalator. Since when ISN'T a president allowed to talk to other world leaders. He has executive privilege being POTUS and he can say whatever the fvck he wants to other world leaders. Same goes for Obama before him, Bush before them, so on and so forth. You haters on the left are just looking for ANY excuse to TRY and put forth your "joke of impeachment inquiries" because you know that you have HIDEOUS candidates in 2020 and it is completely melting your brains at the mere thought of Trump being President till 2025. That's all that this is about. PERIOD. Just look at the leftist's comments in here to fully know that TDS is certainly a big problem in America today. I will give you leftists a FREE piece of advice....................... Forget that Trump is President and let him run the country and you folks go on with your lives. You people will be much happier if you don't allow Trump to invade your brains. I say this because it makes ZERO difference to me if Hillary was president or if Trump is President. I would call out the right if they became mentally ill over Hillary the same exact way you lefties have lost your minds over Trump. Grow a pair, lefties. Edited September 26, 2019 by njbuff 3
Foxx Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) in a nutshell... https://twitter.com/Why45huh/status/1176908389621927937 Edited September 26, 2019 by Foxx 1
John Adams Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/Why45huh/status/1176908389621927937 Foxx brought up the Clintons in a thread about Trump's conduct. Everybody DRINK!
Foxx Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 for the TDS impaired... https://twitter.com/FofoSpumoni/status/1177048135488724994 *********************************** and for the idiots who need reminding... https://twitter.com/kate_awakening/status/1177038183428587520 6
Teddy KGB Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Paulus said: No. He deleted the Epstein thread and there were many people who guessed on when he would be suicided. Due to him we dont know who guessed the closest, and rightful king of the PPP sub. He should be banned. Seconded. Guys a POS hack. Read through this thread as evidence of that
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2019 Author Posted September 26, 2019 Quote “In the hours after the release Wednesday of the rough transcript of President Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the White House circulated an email with proposed talking points for Trump’s defenders. Unfortunately for the White House, the email was mistakenly sent to not only Republicans but also Democratic lawmakers and their staff.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-mistakenly-sends-trump-ukraine-talking-points-to-democrats/2019/09/25/5170aa52-dfb2-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html The buck passing has begun! Rudy Giuliani: State Department 'Asked Me' to Look Into Ukraine The Daily Beast 1 day ago 1
Rob's House Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, John Adams said: Foxx brought up the Clintons in a thread about Trump's conduct. Everybody DRINK! I hate it when I'm trying to publicly crucify someone for perceived transgressions & someone else exposes my insincerity by pointing out my glaring inconsistency on the topic. 5
SoCal Deek Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, John Adams said: I've been saying this for pages. They can't see way their noses in this. Biden can go down too. But the current thread is about trump. John, The problem you’re having is that you don’t seem to understand that Trump has a job to do as the President. It’s been a problem for the Left since attained the office. It’s not illegal for him to do his job. It might look political to those that see everything through the lens of politics, race and gender, but it’s really just a guy who’s taking his job description seriously. It’s unusual I admit since almost nobody else in Washington is doing much of anything (Left and Right included). So....can the President fire the FBI Director...yep! Can the President put controls on immigration...yep! Should the President ask integrity questions before he hands over taxpayer money to foreigners...yep! 2
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2019 Author Posted September 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: John, The problem you’re having is that you don’t seem to understand that Trump has a job to do as the President. It’s been a problem for the Left since attained the office. It’s not illegal for him to do his job. It might look political to those that see everything through the lens of politics, race and gender, but it’s really just a guy who’s taking his job description seriously. It’s unusual I admit since almost nobody else in Washington is doing much of anything (Left and Right included). So....can the President fire the FBI Director...yep! Can the President put controls on immigration...yep! Should the President ask integrity questions before he hands over taxpayer money to foreigners...yep! The president can't extort or bribe a foreign leader to get a political opponent. You understand that, right? If you don't, you just don't want to understand.
snafu Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The president can't extort or bribe a foreign leader to get a political opponent. You understand that, right? If you don't, you just don't want to understand. I understand that. When did that happen? People should be really cheesed off, yeah? 1
Uncle Joe Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 Full of Schiff on the news this morning.
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2019 Author Posted September 26, 2019 Whistleblower complaint: Quote “In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S. government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election,” the whistleblower wrote in the complaint dated Aug. 12. “This interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the President’s main domestic political rivals. The President’s personal lawyer, Mr. Rudolph W. Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort. Attorney General (William P.) Barr appears to be involved as well.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/house-intelligence-committee-releases-whistleblowers-complaint-citing-trumps-call-with-ukraines-president/2019/09/26/402052ee-e056-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html 27 minutes ago, snafu said: I understand that. When did that happen? People should be really cheesed off, yeah? Are you following the news?
dubs Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Hedge said: I’m past the point of caring about any of this and just feel bad for Democrats, the media, and anyone else who buys into this. You have to be a pretty empty person to get excited about this stuff. There is is literally nothing in that transcript. There is a zero point zero percent chance of impeachment. This nonsense only makes trump more difficult to beat in 2020. He’s going to win in a landslide. Amazingly, they media and the Dems have actually made trump a somewhat sympathetic figure. But, as I’ve said a million times before, this all is just a distraction from the real issue, the size, scope and role of the federal government in the lives of Americans. 4
John Adams Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: John, The problem you’re having is that you don’t seem to understand that Trump has a job to do as the President. It’s been a problem for the Left since attained the office. It’s not illegal for him to do his job. It might look political to those that see everything through the lens of politics, race and gender, but it’s really just a guy who’s taking his job description seriously. It’s unusual I admit since almost nobody else in Washington is doing much of anything (Left and Right included). So....can the President fire the FBI Director...yep! Can the President put controls on immigration...yep! Should the President ask integrity questions before he hands over taxpayer money to foreigners...yep! The president has to follow the law and not engage in quid pro quo for personal political gain. He could have asked for a lot of things, and even vaguely asked them to continue to drain their swamp, but when he called out his main political opponent in particular, things changed as I'm sure even you will admit. The legal question will turn on whether the requested information is "in kind" info of a type that is a "contribution or donation" to his campaign. Given the carrot Trump was dangling at the time ($400 million), there's at least a case to be made that he was trading the aid for the favor. Remember: Trump didn't ask for 20 things, he asked for only two things specifically. That was it. Servers and Bidens. The complaint is interesting because it seems like the whistleblower may not have been alone in his concerns and there are some other facts to be sifted. Edited September 26, 2019 by John Adams
IDBillzFan Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: Full of Schiff on the news this morning. What's the dumbest thing the Dems could do to further embarrass themselves beyond the stupidity of this impeachment effort? Put Schiff in front of a microphone to talk about it. I swear, you leftists are like the Jay Gruden of politics: "Our best chance to win is to keep Case Keenum under center!" Edited September 26, 2019 by IDBillzFan 2
Cinga Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 Maybe a dumb question, but since when do we suspend all investigations of wrongdoing if someone is running for President? Political opponent my a55!! Biden did wrong, and just because he is running to oppose Trump does not mean you just drop inquiries into that wrongdoing! And let's see... how do you investigate wrongdoing in another country? Send in the FBI and have them forcefully get answers? Of course not! You go through the executive branch of the government and get permission and assistance from that country! Keep it up folks... This whole inquiry to hamstring Trump will haunt every POTUS of the future since someone, ANYONE in government could pull this same bullcrap. The WH phones will have to have a message "This call is being recorded and monitored because we have an intrusive Congress that insists on over reach to the Executive branch. You may be better off whispering in the POTUS ear during a photo op."
3rdnlng Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 10 hours ago, snafu said: This whole thing seems screwy. There’s no smoking gun, or smoke, or fire. Congress allocated funds. Trump held up the funds. Trump apparently has been holding up different funds going to aid foreign countries for awhile now, claiming that the U.S. shouldn’t do all of the contributing. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine/trump-administration-reinstates-military-aid-for-ukraine-idUSKCN1VX213 “...Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell praised the Trump administration’s release of the funds, saying: “It would have been a mistake to hold back our assistance to the brave people of Ukraine. Doing so would have undermined our partners in Ukraine and Eastern Europe and further emboldened the Kremlin.” It was one of several disputes recently between Trump and members of Congress, including some of his fellow Republicans as well as Democrats, over his administration’s decision to sidestep congressional approval to fund its own policy initiatives. ...” This Ukraine money and the hold up of it seems to have been heaped into the Administration’s way of dealing with these matters (hold up the money and complain that other countries aren’t pulling their weight), and it seemed as though Congress was getting pissed off. Then Giuliani is reported to have met with Ukrainians about investigating Biden. Then Chris Murphy (in May, 2019) wrote a letter to his Committee Chair in the Senate, complaining of a possible connection — in this particular case — between Giuliani’s actions and the $$ being held up. Murphy was fired up about it. https://www.murphy.senate.gov/download/ukraine-giuliani-letter But it didn’t seem to go anywhere until some random whistleblower complaint was filed. The rough transcript of the phone conversation seems to belie Trump’s m.o. about other countries, mentioning Merkel and Germany. It didn’t seem like Trump implicitly or explicitly said he was not going to turn over the money. It doesn’t seem as though anyone in the Ukraine though there was a condition put on the money to help out in a US political matter. In fact, it was thought as recently as early September, that the hold up was because of Trump’s coddling of Putin. http://www.ukrweekly.com/uwwp/slow-walking-military-aid-to-ukraine/ Odd how the narrative changed from one reason to another reason to yet another reason over time. While this post is well thought out I believe you have made a distinction that falls into the hands of the rotten Left. This is only a U.S. political matter because the Left refuses to call it what it is. It is a U.S. criminal matter which certainly falls under the Trump administration's purview.
Numark3 Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) Oh look at that...the complaint doesn’t conflict with the transcript. And look at that, the allegations go beyond that call. It appears to be a credible complaint that went through appropriate channels. This is why saying things like Direct knowledge and quid pro quo is dumb DR. Both are irrelevant now. maybe you should start listening to me? Edited September 26, 2019 by Crayola64
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