Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Rudy said he did this over a month ago. It's not news. He was all over the news doing exactly that.
Tiberius Posted September 20, 2019 Author Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Rudy said he did this over a month ago. It's not news. He was all over the news doing exactly that. It is new because we have new information and we have a law breaking situation that seems related to just this sort of republic undermining activity. The fun benefit of all this will be when we have a Democrat in the Oval Office after January 2021 and you guys try and smear him/her. It will all be Fake News. Fake News forever!
B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 ? How Has Joe Biden’s Scandal Suddenly Become President Trump’s Scandal? By Elizabeth Vaughn 2
Tiberius Posted September 20, 2019 Author Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, B-Man said: How Has Joe Biden’s Scandal Suddenly Become President Trump’s Scandal? Ooooh! Oooooh! Mr. Cotter, I got this one! If what is being reported is true, it's because Trump is extorting and bribing a foreign nation to undermine our republic for his own selfish needs. That's serious corruption. Rudy basically admitted much of it.
B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 DOJ and the DNI Tell Adam Schiff to FOAD Over Whistleblower Report and Schiff Makes a Toothless Threat to Go to Court .
Albwan Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) Really, you can't blame the left for all these made up nonsense attacks on Trump, they have to do something to keep attention off the putrid mess of the democrat presidential nominees. Edited September 20, 2019 by Albwan 1
Tiberius Posted September 20, 2019 Author Posted September 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Albwan said: Really, you can't blame the left for all these made up nonsense attacks on Trump, they have to do something to keep attention off the putrid mess of the democrat presidential nominees. Trump says the whistleblower is 'highly partisan' He doesn't even know who he is! And the Inspector General is a "leftist" too? Why don't you just think? You know, use your brain 2
Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 WSJ reporting Trump offered no quid pro quo... (shocking) -- he asked them to look into Biden's son. (This is going to be baaaad for Joe, not Trump)
Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 It's already boomeranging as people put it together: That's what the FISA investigation is all about: abusing power to investigate your political rivals in violation of the constitution. Trump didn't do any of that. So if the outrage is going to fly at Trump over this -- then get ready for what's about to hit DC in the form of Horowitz/Durham/Huber. In the end this story accomplishes three things: 1) It shines a laser pointer on the Ukraine -- which is not what Nuland, Kerry, Clinton, Biden, or the McCain family want. 2) It energizes people on all sides to be outraged over political persecution/abuse of power 3) Exposes the media as hypocrites for the past three years of ignoring actual abuses of power and political persecutions. Gonna be fun:) 1
Tiberius Posted September 20, 2019 Author Posted September 20, 2019 Trump pressures Ukrainian President to work with Rudy, WSJ reporting. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-asked-ukraine-president-to-probe-hunter-biden-eight-times-in-one-call-wsj?ref=home 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's already boomeranging as people put it together: That's what the FISA investigation is all about: abusing power to investigate your political rivals in violation of the constitution. Trump didn't do any of that. So if the outrage is going to fly at Trump over this -- then get ready for what's about to hit DC in the form of Horowitz/Durham/Huber. In the end this story accomplishes three things: 1) It shines a laser pointer on the Ukraine -- which is not what Nuland, Kerry, Clinton, Biden, or the McCain family want. 2) It energizes people on all sides to be outraged over political persecution/abuse of power 3) Exposes the media as hypocrites for the past three years of ignoring actual abuses of power and political persecutions. Gonna be fun:) No, it’s not boomeranging at all. Fantasy 22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: WSJ reporting Trump offered no quid pro quo... (shocking) -- he asked them to look into Biden's son. (This is going to be baaaad for Joe, not Trump) Lol, nice spin, he pressured the president. Hey, just have WH release the whistleblower allegation. Just release it! Stop breaking the law!
B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Trump's team seeking information from the Ukrainian government on Joe Biden and Hunter Biden isn't illegal. Hillary Clinton did the same about Trump in 2016. It may be ugly; it doesn't violate the law. See, e.g., the analysis here: Can it be a crime to do opposition research by asking foreigners for information? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/07/12/can-it-be-a-crime-to-do-opposition-research-by-asking-foreigners-for-information/ . 2
Cinga Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Hey, just have WH release the whistleblower allegation. Just release it! Stop breaking the law! You are Sooooo disingenuous! Or maybe your not aware there are also laws of confidentiality to PROTECT the whistleblower?
Warren Zevon Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Cinga said: You are Sooooo disingenuous! Or maybe your not aware there are also laws of confidentiality to PROTECT the whistleblower? Probably not good for the current president to be shyt talking the whistleblower then, right? Edited September 20, 2019 by Gary Busey
Albwan Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: Trump's team seeking information from the Ukrainian government on Joe Biden and Hunter Biden isn't illegal. Hillary Clinton did the same about Trump in 2016. It may be ugly; it doesn't violate the law. See, e.g., the analysis here: Can it be a crime to do opposition research by asking foreigners for information? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/07/12/can-it-be-a-crime-to-do-opposition-research-by-asking-foreigners-for-information/ . Personally I don't think its ugly - it's just unnecessary. Trump should just chill out, negotiate with China, and let his leftist campaign team do all the work for 2020.
Cinga Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Probably not good for the current president to be shyt talking the whistleblower then, right? wtf does that have to do with protecting his/her identity?
Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 They still don't get how to handle Trump 2
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 Two relevant details left out (really three): 1) It wasn't news about Rudy/Ukraine 2) It was State's request 3) There was no quid pro quo w Trump/Ukraine (Unlike Biden/Ukraine/Hillary/Ukraine) 2 1
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 He's not a bright guy. This is the wrong approach to take. Reminder: Sorry, Joe. You never had a chance to win anyway. But now you're going to spend your golden years trying to salvage what's left of your reputation. And we're just getting started exposing the skeletons. 2
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