Koko78 Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: They never stop:Link to story of the story An Internal Revenue Service (IRS) bureaucrat has filed a so-called “whistleblower” complaint claiming he received information that at least one Treasury Department political appointee moved to “improperly interfere” with the annual audit of President Donald Trump or Vice President Mike Pence’s tax returns, according to the Washington Post. The Post, citing multiple anonymous sources, cannot provide key details of the complaint due to privacy laws that prohibit the disclosure of details concerning tax return filings. The complaint’s existence was revealed in court filings earlier, though it failed to garner much public attention. Two Trump administration officials downplayed the complaint due to the fact that it is based on “hearsay” and suggested it could have been prompted by political bias. I'm not sure what's so incredible about this story. I mean, what is more accurate and trustworthy than third-hand hearsay which contains no details? 1
Tiberius Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 CNN reported: “During a phone call with Xi [Jinping] on June 18, Trump raised Biden’s political prospects as well as those of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who by then had started rising in the polls, according to two people familiar with the discussion. In that call, Trump also told Xi he would remain quiet on Hong Kong protests as trade talks progressed.” 2
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I'm not sure what's so incredible about this story. I mean, what is more accurate and trustworthy than third-hand hearsay which contains no details? They never learn.
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Smattering of good material here: Kimberly's latest: Julie's latest: Re: The Schiff texts release -- link to them and then commentary: Why release a portion of the texts and not the transcript which gives those texts context? Because Schiff is lying. Again. It was always a coup -- and remains one right now. 36 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I'm not sure what's so incredible about this story. I mean, what is more accurate and trustworthy than third-hand hearsay which contains no details? Also, this is pretty great: 3
SoCal Deek Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 I’m dying to find out what people think the Presidents of two unrelated countries should be talking about? It seems to me that the US and Ukraine only intersect in a very few select topics. Is everyone just sad they weren’t talking about the upcoming Bills season?
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 One more thread on the texts released: + more 3
3rdnlng Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, John Adams said: So far I see withheld aid, a "transcript" and today a bunch of texts and emails. None of that is "false," it's just information. And it shows a sitting president pressuring a foreign president to investigate his leading rival by name and with an obsession. The political bias of the investigation is without question, but I am focusing in this thread on the evidence they are finding, which isn't nothing. It seems like you and Tiberius are pretty tight and think pretty much the same way. You seem to have a proclivity for using different names and I initially called you Sybil, based on a decades old movie character with multiple personalities. I freely admit that I might have jumped the gun on that and named you in a too hasty manner. In retrospect, and with the closeness you've seemed to have developed with another poster here who used to be named gatorman but now goes by the name of Tiberius I think naming you Mr. Tibs would be appropriate. May your relationship grow and prosper. 1
Tiberius Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Smattering of good material here: Kimberly's latest: Julie's latest: Re: The Schiff texts release -- link to them and then commentary: Why release a portion of the texts and not the transcript which gives those texts context? Because Schiff is lying. Again. It was always a coup -- and remains one right now. Also, this is pretty great: Asking communist to investigate Biden
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Asking communist to investigate Biden Yet -- you did not care when it was revealed Obama and Clinton were paying for Russian propaganda to use against their political rival. Principles. Try having some one day, you'll be amazed at what a difference they make 1
Tiberius Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Yet -- you did not care when it was revealed Obama and Clinton were paying for Russian propaganda to use against their political rival. Principles. Try having some one day, you'll be amazed at what a difference they make You admit it's wrong? What Trump did was wrong, ya?
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Even the Washington Post had to give Adam Schiff four Pinocchioes 3
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You admit it's wrong? What Trump did was wrong, ya? Wrong? No. Illegal? Not by a long shot. Poor politics? Sure.
Tiberius Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Wrong? No. Illegal? Not by a long shot. Poor politics? Sure. Asking the communist to "investigate" anything is for sure wrong. Why not ask the Mexican drug lords to look n their files, too? Or maybe the Taliban?
DC Tom Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Yet -- you did not care when it was revealed Obama and Clinton were paying for Russian propaganda to use against their political rival. Principles. Try having some one day, you'll be amazed at what a difference they make Hell, he praised Obama for having campaign rallies in Europe with the help of European governments. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Asking the communist to "investigate" anything is for sure wrong. Why not ask the Mexican drug lords to look n their files, too? Or maybe the Taliban? Whats more wrong? Asking for help looking into corruption even from foes? ... Or ignoring said corruption because of the fear of the political blowback? This is a political argument you nor your side can or will win. People see through it and realize this is all an attempt to protect the establishment’s political class at the expense of truth and the American tax payer. In the end all you’re doing is helping Trump better frame the upcoming Horowitz/Huber/Durham investigations.
DC Tom Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Asking the communist to "investigate" anything is for sure wrong. I agree. Keep AOC and Bernie Sanders away from this. Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Whats more wrong? Asking for help looking into corruption even from foes? ... Or ignoring said corruption because of the fear of the political blowback? This is a political argument you nor your side can or will win. People see through it and realize this is all an attempt to protect the establishment’s political class at the expense of truth and the American tax payer. In the end all you’re doing is helping Trump better frame the upcoming Horowitz/Huber/Durham investigations. I'm surprised he's going the "Asking for help from the communists" route with this. I mean...tariffs, anyone? Isn't "Trump is offering to remove tariffs in return for investigating Biden!" a much better narrative? The morons are really going to go with "communists are bad?" 1
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 CIA officer, involved in the 2016/2017 coup (meaning he was tasked by Brennan) -- nothing to see here. It's all on the up and up, people! They never thought she'd lose. 1
DC Tom Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: CIA officer, involved in the 2016/2017 coup (meaning he was tasked by Brennan) -- nothing to see here. It's all on the up and up, people! They never thought she'd lose. Hell, they're still trying to make her win. Wouldn't it have just been better to let Trump have his four years, then put another cutout into office in 2020? This is smacking of such desperation it's making the plotters look bad. Really, for people who've played the game so patiently behind the scenes, to completely lose patience like this is atypical to the point of being a legitimate mental illness. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Hell, they're still trying to make her win. Wouldn't it have just been better to let Trump have his four years, then put another cutout into office in 2020? This is smacking of such desperation it's making the plotters look bad. Really, for people who've played the game so patiently behind the scenes, to completely lose patience like this is atypical to the point of being a legitimate mental illness. I know I'm a nut -- but everything I'm hearing from people in the beltway is they have no choice but to do this because of Barr/Durham/Huber/Horowitz. They have their nuts in a vice and have multiple stone-cold-locks in terms of legal cases to bring against numerous big names on both sides of the aisle (past and present). That's a lot to take on faith, I get that and don't take it solely on faith myself, but if you examine the possible motivations for the odd/transparent strategy you point out above it lends some more weight to it. 1
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