formerlyofCtown Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Sometimes I feel like I'm just scouting Ed Oliver and not watching the game. Anyone know how's he grading so far? I think Harrison Phillips is playing better football. It's not even really close. Maybe you should watch the highlight video right below your post. Harrison is also playing at a very high level.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Winning will make me trust. Until then, I worry the Process is Jonestown Kool aide. Never change. 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Maybe you should watch the highlight video right below your post. Harrison is also playing at a very high level. It kind of fits what I'm seeing. Oliver tries to overpower his blocker all the time. Hump move is all power. If he has that move he should use it more than 1 time. I'm not just saying this to have a hot take. Don't get me wrong Oliver is doing dirty work out there. He's not a bust by any means. Actually Phillips and Oliver should be starting but Oliver continue to do dirty work. He's more of a block eater to me which is fine. Not why we drafted him top 10, but his limit pass rush moves won't allow him to get many sacks. McDermott and Frazier will scheme him free at times which is how he'll get pressure. Edited September 19, 2019 by Buffalo_Stampede
ghostwriter Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) I’d like to see H. Phillips/Oliver as our starting tackles. Edited September 19, 2019 by Sunshower
PaattMaann Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sunshower said: I’d like to see H. Phillips/Oliver as our starting tackles. All four of our DTs are starters because of the rotation.
formerlyofCtown Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It kind of fits what I'm seeing. Oliver tries to overpower his blocker all the time. Hump move is all power. If he has that move he should use it more than 1 time. I'm not just saying this to have a hot take. Don't get me wrong Oliver is doing dirty work out there. He's not a bust by any means. Actually Phillips and Oliver should be starting but Oliver continue to do dirty work. He's more of a block eater to me which is fine. Not why we drafted him top 10, but his limit pass rush moves won't allow him to get many sacks. McDermott and Frazier will scheme him free at times which is how he'll get pressure. Notice you bring up a stat. Definitely sounds like you googled the box score.
Happy Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Never change. Have another cup of Process
Da webster guy Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 10 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Shouldn't be too surprising. He played the 0 tech in Houston, correct? You have to pretty darn strong to dominate a position usually played by athletes 20-30 pounds heavier. 40 time: 4.73 seconds (98th percentile) Short shuttle: 4.22 seconds (96th) 3-cone: 7.15 seconds (95th) Vertical: 36 inches (98th) Broad jump: 10 feet (98th) Ed at the combine. Ranking in the 95th percentile or above at your position in any one drill is impressive. Landing with that ranking at every movement drill is just insanity. These are linebacker numbers. Being slightly undersized for the position he plays, I just didn't expect the straight line power against pro's that are 50 lbs heavier. Really a perfect fit for this defense and he's still relatively slow off the snap on a lot of plays as he adjusts to the game. 2
Todd Allan Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Winning will make me trust. Until then, I worry the Process is Jonestown Kool aide. Drink the Kool-Aid, Happy. You can DO IT! lol
Happy Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, ToddAllan said: Drink the Kool-Aid, Happy. You can DO IT! lol I want to, believe me, I do. But McD has to prove it this year. We're off to a good start, but we need to continue by beating teams like the Bengals (who we should beat) and the Patriots (to be the man you have to beat the man.)
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I want to, believe me, I do. But McD has to prove it this year. We're off to a good start, but we need to continue by beating teams like the Bengals (who we should beat) and the Patriots (to be the man you have to beat the man.) So if they don't beat the patriots, you're just going to cross your arms and pout?
Saxum Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 He made a comment appreciating Kyle's input and his 15 years of service and then said something like (Jim I am a Systems Engineer not a stenographer) "I know I can do better, I am a better athlete than him." He is definitely stronger and quicker but not a better athlete than Kyle.
Happy Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: So if they don't beat the patriots, you're just going to cross your arms and pout? When did I say, or even insinuate this? The whole point is that I'm not going to blindly believe in platitudes. For the 10th time, McD has to PROVE it. If they lose to the Patriots, I can live with that. It is HOW they play, not just the result.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Notice you bring up a stat. Definitely sounds like you googled the box score. What stat?
formerlyofCtown Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: What stat? Sacks are a stat
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: Sacks are a stat Sacks aren't part of the conversation. He can't get off blocks consistently.
formerlyofCtown Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Sacks aren't part of the conversation. He can't get off blocks consistently. I havent seen that. Youre the one that brought it up in your response. 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: He made a comment appreciating Kyle's input and his 15 years of service and then said something like (Jim I am a Systems Engineer not a stenographer) "I know I can do better, I am a better athlete than him." He is definitely stronger and quicker but not a better athlete than Kyle. Quick and strong are the athletic part.
YoloinOhio Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Sacks aren't part of the conversation. He can't get off blocks consistently. You should totally bring this up to him in person. I see no risks.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: You should totally bring this up to him in person. I see no risks. I'll wear a red non contact jersey.
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