klos63 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, H2o said: At this point he is 31 years old, was always a gimmick system QB, and would be more of a distraction than anything due to the media circus it would create. No one is going to invest significant money on him because he isn't anyone's long term answer. I don't think he just wants to be a backup somewhere either. This whole situation is of his own making. I don't feel sorry for him because he is rich af from the game itself, as well as endorsements, and also got a settlement rumored to be in the $60,000,000-$80,000,000 range from the NFL. He's no martyr, not by any stretch of the imagination. I wish him no ill will, but I don't buy the victim card he has played due to the way everything has worked itself out. It's not like he was having a HOF career. Talent trumps controversy. You see it with Kareem Hunt, Tyreke Hill, Joe Mixon, Dontae Stallworth, Michael Vick, the list could go on. Hell, how many chances did Aldon Smith get? If he was a top tier QB he would have BEEN signed long ago. People were calling for his head and he was benched in SF long before the kneeling started. Some very casually forget that. What gimmick system?
Jauronimo Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: That was brutal, and often overlooked in the Kap discussions. What some people have difficulty accepting is that, in the end, if Kap was still a good quarterback, he'd be playing for someone. He's not out of the league because of his protests. He's out because the league caught on to his style of play and he became obsolete. As I've said repeatedly in other Kap threads, if Michael Vick can kill dogs by hanging them from trees, putting bullets in their heads or drowning them in a bucket of water...and come out of prison to a multi-million-dollar deal, they'll take anyone...provided you can play. I think this needs slight modification. The league will welcome ANYONE who can deliver results on the field worth more than the headache caused by the media circus they bring. Backup QB is not and will never be worth the headache. Just ask Tebow.
unbillievable Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 It would help his cause if his girlfriend agreed to sign the contract, too.
H2o Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, klos63 said: What gimmick system? The one that Harbaugh and Roman ran in SF. Do you not remember?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, klos63 said: You don't know how to look that up? Sensitive. Of course I do. That's the point, though. The guy hasn't played in YEARS. And his last season, he wasn't good. So, why would ANYONE take a shot on this clown?
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, klos63 said: Fair enough, but I don't think he's the one complaining about being blackballed, I'm sure he's disappointed, but it's mostly those that support him that say he is blackballed. A true martyr is better off letting others believe he is a victim, while giving the appearance of trying to overcome the adversity. As I stated earler, I truly hope he gets a chance, so that he can sink or swim bases on his abilities, which is part of why I love the NFL. As close to a meritocracy as there is in this day and age.
Rico Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, StHustle said: Kaep being blackballed is simply team owners' response to white america's calling for his head. All these other excuses like ability and distraction are BOGUS. He isnt signed for fear of backlash from white america. And many of you that would be "appalled" if he was signed are the same ones using these excuses. You hide behind them as to not admit that you dont want to see him play cause you feel he disrespected your country for the sake of bringing attention to an issue you love to believe doesn't exist. There’s also a large percentage of America that enjoys watching bleeding hearts crying about poor Kaep, gotta keep them happy too. Edited September 18, 2019 by Rico 3
klos63 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, H2o said: The one that Harbaugh and Roman ran in SF. Do you not remember? How was it a gimmick? 2012 and 2013, 1000 yard rusher, 1000 yard receiver.... pretty standard.
TuelTime Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, H2o said: The one that Harbaugh and Roman ran in SF. Do you not remember? You mean the one being run in Baltimore to this day? Just now, klos63 said: How was it a gimmick? 2012 and 2013, 1000 yard rusher, 1000 yard receiver.... pretty standard. You don't go to the Super Bowl and then to the NFC Championship the following year with "gimmick" play. The people who compare Tim Tebow to Kaep are just being ignorant.
Seven-N-Nine Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) How's about no one brings up that douche's name anymore eh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpVLwnfa7A0 Edited September 18, 2019 by Seven-N-Nine
H2o Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, klos63 said: How was it a gimmick? 2012 and 2013, 1000 yard rusher, 1000 yard receiver.... pretty standard. Look, I'm not going to go back and forth with you about it. The NFL figured him out. Keep him in the pocket and he cannot beat you with his arm alone ala our own Tyrod Taylor who played in the same system. Read the rest of the original post and let it sink in.
Gugny Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ......exactly at WHAT??........... At everything he wants to accomplish.
TuelTime Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, H2o said: Look, I'm not going to go back and forth with you about it. The NFL figured him out. Keep him in the pocket and he cannot beat you with his arm alone ala our own Tyrod Taylor who played in the same system. Read the rest of the original post and let it sink in. Tyrod Taylor is also one of the best, if not the best backup in the league right now. And from a football persepective, I'd rather have Kaep over Tyrod. 1
Freddie's Dead Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 While I completely disagree with Kaepernick's protest, it's a crime for the NFL to continue to blackball him, while allowing all kinds of lowlifes (lowlives?) to continue to play. The whole "media circus" thing is garbage. Would the Jets or Giants be more of a media circus than they are already? The fact that this guy can't get a sniff when far inferior QB's are being signed is a travesty.
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: He's not being black balled. He's not employed most likely because he was a lousy employee when he was last employed. He used the platform of his employer and work time to push a personal, social and political agenda and one that was not popular among customers. That will prevent almost anyone from working. It's a QB starved league. If he's kept himself in shape and would agree to go back to work and not push his societal grievances on company time, he might get a contract as a backup QB. Yes we was/is being black balled, that's why the NFL settled in the lawsuit he filed. If they were innocent there's no way the would've settled, especially on this topic, and would've gone to court so they could prove it. Did you forget already? It just happened 7 months ago. Must be that facts are hard when they don't fit your narrative. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-15/colin-kaepernick-settles-blacklisting-lawsuit-against-nfl
H2o Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, TuelTime said: You mean the one being run in Baltimore to this day? He is NO Lamar Jackson my friend. Never was even close to the athlete he is. If Lamar's passing stats were an aberration due to the teams he played the first two weeks we will soon find out. Baltimore's schedule gets tougher than the Dolphins and the Cardinals. If they were then teams will treat him just like the Chargers did last year in the playoffs and he will prove to be average just like the other two aforementioned in Kaep and Taylor. If Lamar truly is special in this regard then he can surely have a long and successful run in the NFL.
benderbender Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 What’s truly sad is that everyone over the age of 25 doesn’t realize that this is modern viral marketing. Kap makes an innocuous statement and they count on crusty curmudgeons to grab their newly discovered wireless devices and take to the internet to crusade. All the while driving up google searches, kicking back to Nike, which in turn pats Kap on the back and he hands a wad of cash to his girlfriend. She’s laughs, sips a fruity drink with an umbrella in it, and says “Get back to work Colin.” 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, benderbender said: What’s truly sad is that everyone over the age of 25 doesn’t realize that this is modern viral marketing. Kap makes an innocuous statement and they count on crusty curmudgeons to grab their newly discovered wireless devices and take to the internet to crusade. All the while driving up google searches, kicking back to Nike, which in turn pats Kap on the back and he hands a wad of cash to his girlfriend. She’s laughs, sips a fruity drink with an umbrella in it, and says “Get back to work Colin.” Exactly. BEst thing anyone could do is just ignore the clown.
H2o Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, TuelTime said: Tyrod Taylor is also one of the best, if not the best backup in the league right now. And from a football persepective, I'd rather have Kaep over Tyrod. Good for you. Teams don't see it that way because of the total package that comes along with that. Also, have you spoken with Kaep? Does he want to be back in the NFL STRICTLY as a backup QB?
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, H2o said: Good for you. Teams don't see it that way because of the total package that comes along with that. Also, have you spoken with Kaep? Does he want to be back in the NFL STRICTLY as a backup QB? Have you spoken to Kaep and asked him if he DOESN'T want to be back in the NFL STRICTLY as a back up QB? Why would it be STRICTLY as a backup QB? Does he NOT get a chance, like everyone else, to compete for a starting gig?
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