BuffaloBill Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 12th man seems generic. Also, fails to account for away games where Bills Loyalists show up in numbers. What do you think? 1 2
Bad Things Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 No. Although it's gained traction in the last few years, "Bills Mafia" is a really lame name. 13 1 2 4
LeGOATski Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 It's 2019. Should be "12th Person" 1 1 24 1
El Guapo Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 I say yes, old timers will say no. Heck, just add Bills Mafia along side the 12th Man There is no right answer. Some will argue about the connotations of the word mafia, but the national media has accepted and encouraged its use. It is a unique element to the Bills and ought be embraced. Just now, LeGOATski said: It's 2019. Should be "12th Person" Ok, you’ve been triggered. Got it. ?♂️ 1
Bob in STL Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 No. The 12th man is special. We were called that by the greatest teams we ever had. Coming to Rich Stadium to play the Bills and the 12th man was once a daunting task. 6
RiotAct Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It's 2019. Should be "12th Person" or even better, “12th Non-Binary Individual” 3 2
Buffalo716 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 No The 12th man is symbolic of our home field advantage
Another Fan Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) When other fans hear Bills Mafia they tend to just think of the slamming tables, humping girls in public, fans lighting themselves on fire, etc... So of course there’d probably be some who’d want it ? Edited September 18, 2019 by Another Fan 1 2
Nester Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Na, “Mafia” is so lame and just full of cringe. It’s embarrassing when they actually say it on tv 2 9
Kirby Jackson Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 It’s actually an interesting thought and I voted yes. 12th man isn’t us!! Texas A&M owns it (I think) and the Seahawks are the NFL team that everyone identifies with it. It’s like the Bills trying to pretend that, “Trust the Process” is a Bills thing. It isn’t. The whole Bills Mafia thing is us and only us. It’s an all-encompassing term to encapsulate the way that we rally together, good and bad. I ALWAYS prefer things that are ours not things that we took from someone else. 9 3
hondo in seattle Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 I'm pretty ambivalent because I don't like either epithet. "12th Man" isn't original. "Mafia" has negative associations. But since the "12th Man" moniker isn't used anymore and Bills fans are widely called the "Bills Mafia" now, I get BB's point.
Just Joshin' Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 12th man seems to rep all, mafia a subset of fans. Votes no.
Warcodered Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 12th man is literally a thing that means the fans represent a force like a 12th player on the field. Bills Mafia is just a name for the fans it doesn't really have any meaning of them cheering being a useful force. 1
Augie Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s actually an interesting thought and I voted yes. 12th man isn’t us!! Texas A&M owns it (I think) and the Seahawks are the NFL team that everyone identifies with it. It’s like the Bills trying to pretend that, “Trust the Process” is a Bills thing. It isn’t. The whole Bills Mafia thing is us and only us. It’s an all-encompassing term to encapsulate the way that we rally together, good and bad. I ALWAYS prefer things that are ours not things that we took from someone else. I’d rather share an innocuous name than go for “mafia”. Were Bloods and Crips taken already? I did enjoy The Godfather movies, however. Well, more than that horse did! ? 1
Kirby Jackson Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Augie said: I’d rather share an innocuous name than go for “mafia”. Were Bloods and Crips taken already? I did enjoy The Godfather movies, however. Well, more than that horse did! ? The whole “12th man” thing isn’t Bills. I just hate things that we stole (hence my issues with “process”). The “Bills Mafia” thing at least belongs to us. It is unique to us. If we want to recognize the fan base I’d rather recognize Bills fans than “generic football fan base.” That’s what 12th man is. It is every team’s fans. I like the idea of us vs. everyone else. Whether you like Bills Mafia or not it isn’t something that we are sharing. Edited September 18, 2019 by Kirby Jackson 4 1
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