LSHMEAB Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 Not surprised by the OL grades TBH. Yes, the ran the ball extremely infrequently, but the generated zero push. Wasn't much different than last season in that regard unfortunately. Pass Pro was decent, but moving the LOS wasn't there...at all. It's a concern.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 PFF is worthless. their values weather good or bad are very inaccurate of the actual play of the player. 3 hours ago, Koko78 said: Here's the ranking I'm interested in: 1st AFC East (1-0-0) Patriots ??
ny33 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, VW82 said: I think the Singletary grade was due in part to his lackluster pass protection and other mistakes (i.e. drops and routes) in the passing game. The Milano and Hyde grades are a little surprising -- those guys looked great! Other than that everything else matches what I saw. Not sure what all the fuss is about. Go Sweeney! sure, i agree that those execution issues yesterday knock him down from an elite performance despite the gaudy numbers and high % of targets caught etc.. but that should knock him down to “good” or the upper end of average, not “poor.”
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 This is a bunch of hogwash. One reason being that there's no way they actually have time to "analyze" every play of every game for EVERY player and come out with these reports the next day. Common sense alone reveals the absurdity...
Pbomb Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 Well these are completely pointless and a waste of time for the people who make them and the readers 5 hours ago, VW82 said: I think the Singletary grade was due in part to his lackluster pass protection and other mistakes (i.e. drops and routes) in the passing game. The Milano and Hyde grades are a little surprising -- those guys looked great! Other than that everything else matches what I saw. Not sure what all the fuss is about. Go Sweeney! So Wallace was also poor, Hughes bad? Ok
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 Be careful publishing a full list. You don't have publishing rights even if you are a member. I had a thread on here that I did top 5s and bottom 5s for the Bills on and I made sure the read their Ts and Cs very carefully before doing it because they protect their material quite diligently.
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Why do any of you put ANY stock into ANYTHING that site publishes? It's straight trash. It is not straight trash. It is not everything either - some of what they do is more objective than other bits. As for Singletary - just for context - his rushing grade was 77.4 - that is in the "Great" category. What brings him down is his receiving grade - 37.8. He had 6 targets - one drop and two of his receptions he bobbled before corralling the ball and he averaged just 5.6 yards per reception. Was the play where he cut back too early a reception play as well? Where he had the corner but cut back and was stopped short? I can't remember. But that might all play in. 1
CSBill Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Warcodered said: Wonder what they rated Bell seeing as he had fewer all purpose yards on more touches.? Elite! ?
eball Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Reader said: Poor: Allen Singletary ROFLMAO
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 9 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: 4 carries for 70 yards is poor? wow One of his carries was only 12 yards. That must be why. 1
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: One of his carries was only 12 yards. That must be why. His run grade was in the great category. It was his receiving grade that dragged him down.
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: His run grade was in the great category. It was his receiving grade that dragged him down. Sort of hard to believe an objective system would drag him to poor. I did not study the actual reasoning. It must also ignore situational analysis. Singletary's best performance came in critical moments. I will say in the first half, on several plays I thought Singletary looked lost on the field. But his whole body of work for the game deserved a game ball, not a "poor" rating. 2
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Sort of hard to believe an objective system would drag him to poor. I did not study the actual reasoning. It must also ignore situational analysis. Singletary's best performance came in critical moments. I will say in the first half, on several plays I thought Singletary looked lost on the field. But his whole body of work for the game deserved a game ball, not a "poor" rating. So it does ignore situational analysis as far as I know. Singletary had 6 receiving plays against 4 rushing plays. So a poor receiving grade will drag the overall down. There are lots of reasons why PFF grades should always be taken with a pinch of salt but when you dig beyond the headline grade there is often some decent analysis there. I say again, it is only a tool, it is never the be all and end all. 1
HOUSE Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) PFF pays me $5 bucks per team, better than cutting lawns Edited September 10, 2019 by HOUSE 1
Alphadawg7 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 Lmao: Zay and his 2 rec on 5 targets for 18 yards is good... But Singletary, whose 98 yards on 7 touches in the second half that was a key piece of winning the game is poor??? That alone is worth deleting this thread entirely. Not to mention all the other absurd ones too. 1 1
Alphadawg7 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: His run grade was in the great category. It was his receiving grade that dragged him down. This still makes no sense. Zay caught just 2 of 5 targets for 18 yards, including losing 2 yards on one reception. He got a good grade. Singletary catches 5 of his 6 targets for 28 yards to go with 70 yards on 4 carries and he gets a poor grade somehow over his receiving? Not to mention was critical to winning the game... This thread is worthless. Should just delete it. 2 1
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: This still makes no sense. Zay caught just 2 of 5 targets for 18 yards, including losing 2 yards on one reception. He got a good grade. Singletary catches 5 of his 6 targets for 28 yards to go with 70 yards on 4 carries and he gets a poor grade somehow over his receiving? Not to mention was critical to winning the game... This thread is worthless. Should just delete it. The things people feel a need to defend is baffling! 1 1
RiotAct Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 9 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: 4 carries for 70 yards is poor? wow yep. Should have fought harder to get that touchdown on the first scoring drive where Allen (also “poor”) had to take it in the next play!!
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: This still makes no sense. Zay caught just 2 of 5 targets for 18 yards, including losing 2 yards on one reception. He got a good grade. Singletary catches 5 of his 6 targets for 28 yards to go with 70 yards on 4 carries and he gets a poor grade somehow over his receiving? Not to mention was critical to winning the game... This thread is worthless. Should just delete it. It is not worthless and there is nuance. Zay did not get a good receiving grade. His run blocking dragged his grade up (he got an elite run blocking grade from 13 run block snaps). Singletary caught 5 of his 6 targets but didn't break many tackle on those plays, bobbled two of the ones he caught and dropped a ball. Again, you have to dig deeper. 1
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