FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 Looked great but his college issues popped up again. He has to finish better. Luckily we play a statue this week so it should be a little easier.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 6 hours ago, mrags said: I’m in the same boat with you. I thought he would be too small for DT in this league. It’s only 1 game, but I’m liking what I saw. Ive never been so happy to be wrong (so far). I knew he had a quick first step and was definitely a high motor type of guy, but he plays with a bit of an edge too. Once he's free he's like shot out of a cannon rushing the QB.
Mat68 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 He played well. He starts finishing, he could be dominant. Half the battle is getting into the backfield, the other part is making plays.
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Looked great but his college issues popped up again. He has to finish better. Luckily we play a statue this week so it should be a little easier. He struggles with arm tackling the QB it seems. Missed brissett in preseason and Darnold when he should have had both
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 6 hours ago, mrags said: I’m in the same boat with you. I thought he would be too small for DT in this league. It’s only 1 game, but I’m liking what I saw. Ive never been so happy to be wrong (so far). He is definitely small, but he has demonstrated he is also reallllly strong. That sort of cancels out the downfalls of his size. 2
oldmanfan Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 I don’t place any stock in this pff stuff good or bad. But my eye test tells me Oliver looked pretty good for his first NFL game.
PetermansRedemption Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: He is definitely small, but he has demonstrated he is also reallllly strong. That sort of cancels out the downfalls of his size. I think the “small” DT myth was absolved once Aaron Donald started absolutely dominating. Donald is 6’1 280, Oliver is 6’1 287. So anyone using Oliver’s size as a downfall hasn’t looked at recent history.
badassgixxer05 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 This is good to hear. Watching the game live you don't pickup on some of these non big stat sheet plays, but he indeed was having a huge effect on Donald. Teams are going to have to game plan for him and leave our ends 1 on 1 many times which is a win for us. ?
Alphadawg7 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Yes Oliver looked good and promising, totally agree. But PFF is also the same people who rated Singletary as "POOR" with 98 yards on 9 touches. So...yeah, they are wacky to say the least. But I do happen to still agree that Oliver looked promising...however, he should also not have been the highest graded Bill on Sunday. Edited September 10, 2019 by Alphadawg7
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 I wonder if @BADOLBILZ Is gonna chime in here.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 On 9/9/2019 at 6:18 AM, YoloinOhio said: Lawson made a big impact for only playing 31% of snaps Agree. Murphy payed well but not so amazing to have almost 3X the snaps Shaq got. Good problem to have.
thebandit27 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I wonder if @BADOLBILZ Is gonna chime in here. I don't see why he wouldn't...he's a big-time Oliver fan.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I don't see why he wouldn't...he's a big-time Oliver fan. Maybe I am thinking of someone else. I thought it was him that I got into a heated back in forth with a couple months ago about Oliver. If it isn't, that is big-time my bad.
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Maybe I am thinking of someone else. I thought it was him that I got into a heated back in forth with a couple months ago about Oliver. If it isn't, that is big-time my bad. Nah Badol loved the Oliver pick. He was less keen on Cody Ford.
GreggTX Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 On 9/9/2019 at 9:14 PM, BillsFan4 said: Our defensive line as a whole looked night and day different from last season. We can finally get pressure on the QB again! And for the blabbering they did about Bell, we held him to 3.5 yds/att. I'll take that every time against a RB of that caliber like Zeke and Barkley. 1
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Nah Badol loved the Oliver pick. He was less keen on Cody Ford. And now I can't find who I had the back and forth with. The guys argument was essentially that Oliver had never seen top tier talent, and that guys from non-power 5 conferences rarely if ever pan out.
GreggTX Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 Love this! Great news on EO. We need more Shaq snaps.
thebandit27 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: And now I can't find who I had the back and forth with. The guys argument was essentially that Oliver had never seen top tier talent, and that guys from non-power 5 conferences rarely if ever pan out. I know exactly who it was, but I'm pretty sure he's no longer on the board. But you can find him hanging around with Jean Reno, Robert De Niro, Stellan Skarsgaard, and Jonathan Pryce. 1
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: I know exactly who it was, but I'm pretty sure he's no longer on the board. But you can find him hanging around with Jean Reno, Robert De Niro, Stellan Skarsgaard, and Jonathan Pryce. That guy sucked
Coach Tuesday Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) On 9/8/2019 at 8:10 PM, Reed83HOF said: We saw this exact play on his college highlight reel - a violent explosion off of the snap, followed by a melee which leaves a guard or center in a heap, followed by a ferocious burst towards a terrified QB. Darnold missed an open receiver on that play as a result of Oliver's pressure. Oliver's quick step is going to make Shaq Lawson a lot of money this year - Lawson doesn't have a quick step at all, but he's tenacious and will get a lot of cleanup opportunities this season as a result of the chaos Oliver causes at the line. Not for nothing - there were rumors that Gregg Williams was pounding the table for the Jets to draft Oliver over Q and he was overruled. You have to think he's pissed after Sunday - and Gregg never forgets a grievance (he keeps files on people, for chrissakes). Couple that with the fact that Gase is probably pointing fingers at Gregg for the way the Jets lost in the 4th Quarter and the Meltdown in the Meadowlands is well underway... Edited September 10, 2019 by Coach Tuesday 1
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