The Safety. What did I miss?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Was too muddy to overturn 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Refs are blind. Was clearly past the goal line.

 

 

[fansince88]

Unless he was carrying the ball in his back pocket he broke the plane as his back crossed the line. Bad call. 

[Best Player Available]

from the endzone camera we saw. his forward progress was clearly out of the endzone.

what a crock of s**t.

 

[nkreed]

Not trying to say that the refs tried to give it to the home team, but the spots by the line judges were poor for the Bills the entire game. The 3rd down QB sneak and the safety, plus the 4th down Bell gain are the ones that stuck out.

[Lurker]

2 minutes ago, TPS said:

The ref who called it had the best view. 

 

The side judge did have the best view--yet IIRC, Gore's back was to him as he tried to squeeze through the line.   So how he could see the football well enough to make that kind of call is questionable to me...

[Buffalo Barbarian]

7 minutes ago, yall said:

I can understand the refs misreading it in real time. I can't understand McD not challenging it.

 

 

cant challenge scoring plays, as they are always reviewed.

 

 

[TPS]

2 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

The side judge did have the best view--yet IIRC, Gore's back was to him as he tried to squeeze through the line.   So how he could see the football well enough to make that kind of call is questionable to me...

Yeah, it was questionable for sure, but once called, there was no way it would be overturned without any way to see it clearly.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

It was a terrible call. It’s almost like the side judge didn’t realize that the rule is the ball had to be out as opposed to the player. 

 

I bet bet we get a super clear view on the all-22.

[PetermansRedemption]

12 minutes ago, Gray Beard said:

The entire ball has to get over the line. From the replay, it wasn’t clear.  Too many bodies blocking the view.

The announcers said that. I’ll have to look up the rule myself, unless you know for sure? It seems odd that it only has to break the plane for a TD. But must be entirely over to prevent a safety. 

[JohnnyBuffalo]

Considering the tendency to pass all day...going for a run play on your one foot line seemed the most obvious call...to everyone...on both sides of the ball!   ?

 

In the end the refs did plenty to help the Bills today so for them to possibly have missed that one...I’ll take it.  

[Alphadawg7]

15 minutes ago, Virgil said:

There wasn’t a good camera angle.  

 

This.  Nothing left to discuss.  It was ruled a safety and there was not a single angle that showed the location of the football, which is all that matters.  Refs made the right call even though it seemed he may have been out of endzone, can’t over turn without seeing the football.

[vincec]

15 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

He couldn't. They have to review it in the booth because it was a scoring play.

 

15 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

It would have been a penalty if he challenged it. All scoring plays are reviewed automatically

 

14 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Can't challenge a scoring play. 

 

14 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

McD needn't challenge.  As a scoring play it was reviewed.

 

14 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Arent all scoring plays reviewed so he can’t?

 

13 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

I believe it was an automatic review.... not enough evidence to overturn.

 

13 minutes ago, CLTbills said:

Well isn’t a safety technically a “scoring play,” and thus, shouldn’t it be automatically reviewed?

So what are you trying to say?  lol

[Buffalo Barbarian]

7 minutes ago, nkreed said:

Not trying to say that the refs tried to give it to the home team, but the spots by the line judges were poor for the Bills the entire game. The 3rd down QB sneak and the safety, plus the 4th down Bell gain are the ones that stuck out.

 

this wouldn't surprise me. I saw a few calls that were questionable , like the one we were called for Taunting and it took us out of FG range when on the same play their player was taunting Allen while on top of him on the ground.

 

 

[Gray Beard]

2 minutes ago, Bills2ref said:

The announcers said that. I’ll have to look up the rule myself, unless you know for sure? It seems odd that it only has to break the plane for a TD. But must be entirely over to prevent a safety. 

It sort of makes sense to me.  For a touchdown, if it touches the white line, it’s in the end zone. Therefore, to not be in the end zone, it cannot be touching any of the white line.

[Orlando Buffalo]

The NFL officials are bad and as long as they are not absurdly bad I accept it and move on. That play was close enough I can accept it based on lack of video evidence, at least until I see another angle.

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[Kelly the Dog]

5 minutes ago, Bills2ref said:

The announcers said that. I’ll have to look up the rule myself, unless you know for sure? It seems odd that it only has to break the plane for a TD. But must be entirely over to prevent a safety. 

Could be that touching the line means in the endzone, which would be the case either way. Although the NFL does have some contradictory stuff on some calls as to where the ball is versus where the feet or player are

[JasonS]

Thought he absolutely crossed the plane, but apparently no good angle to review.  Which actually I find hard to believe, given it was goal line.

 

Also, Feliciano unsportsmanlike, what did he do because I certainly didn't see it?

[Kelly the Dog]

5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

This.  Nothing left to discuss.  It was ruled a safety and there was not a single angle that showed the location of the football, which is all that matters.  Refs made the right call even though it seemed he may have been out of endzone, can’t over turn without seeing the football.

There was an early view from the opposite side IIRC that showed it.

[White Linen]

This is one of those situations where it's a bad call.  I think most would guess the ball had to be out, but because there's no video evidence a bad call has to stand.