Reed83HOF Posted September 8, 2019 Author Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: He's a 2nd round rookie. And to the bold, no it isnt. McD said in his post-game that rotating Ty in every 3rd drive was scripted and planned and had nothing to do with what Ford was or wasnt doing. Oh it certainly did, Ford was out on the scoring drives and actually after the play I posted. Because he is a rookie, doesn't excuse him from playing poorly this game, as a rookie it is expected. Doesn't change the fact that he played poorly... Just now, Limeaid said: It was planned from the start to rotate tackles so they could give Cody some live coaching on sets to improve his skills. You have to do both, he needs the live game play to improve and he wasn't in when it mattered...
Saint Doug Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 If we learned anything today, you learn from your mistakes and move on with your best foot. Everyone struggles at their first time of something. How you respond is how you’ll be remembered. 1
RochesterLifer Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 Yes, the offensive line had some moments they would like to get back. I still am very optimistic with this group. Let's keep in mind: - This was the first game (as has been mentioned) with a totally overhauled group. - The Jets D-line (as has been mentioned) is very good. - Morse missed the entire preseason. I think this is really big for the entire group. The O-line plays as a team and he is their leader. I expect them to get much better and quickly. I think we are going to like our O-line this season. 2
JustWinPlease Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) He needs to be put at guard...at 6-2 or 6-3 he's going to get killed by the defensive ends like 6-5 Leonard Williams and 6-6 Henry Anderson. He's not an NFL left tackle. EDIT: I mean right tackle. Lol. Edited September 8, 2019 by JustWinPlease
Nuncha Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Young player in his first game on the road against a very good defensive front. I'll take his upside and potential over Mills any day. Dawkins got smoked at least once too. O-line got it together when it mattered most which was good to see. Edited September 8, 2019 by Azucho98
zevo Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, JustWinPlease said: He needs to be put at guard...at 6-2 or 6-3 he's going to get killed by the defensive ends like 6-5 Leonard Williams and 6-6 Henry Anderson. He's not an NFL left tackle. He plays right tackle
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Oh it certainly did, Ford was out on the scoring drives and actually after the play I posted. Because he is a rookie, doesn't excuse him from playing poorly this game, as a rookie it is expected. Doesn't change the fact that he played poorly... You have to do both, he needs the live game play to improve and he wasn't in when it mattered... Right? Seems like a funny way to integrate an OL. Considering a lot of what rookie lineman deal with is stunts, different fronts and how to adapt to the speed/movement of the NFL game, idk how you do that in game with hindsight. Let the kid play and coach him up on Monday. If you aren’t confident in his abilities to leave him in full time, he shouldn’t be left protecting the franchise QB
Reed83HOF Posted September 8, 2019 Author Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Right? Seems like a funny way to integrate an OL. Considering a lot of what rookie lineman deal with is stunts, different fronts and how to adapt to the speed/movement of the NFL game, idk how you do that in game with hindsight. Let the kid play and coach him up on Monday. If you aren’t confident in his abilities to leave him in full time, he shouldn’t be left protecting the franchise QB Ford's last time on the field was the near INT from Allen. Edited September 8, 2019 by Reed83HOF
Best Player Available Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 As a precaution he should be cut. Soon after they land tonight.. 1
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Ford's last time on the field was the near INT from Allen. So what do you make of that? Are they spelling him for conditioning reasons as you would a RB? No chance. Are they just getting his feet wet? Maybe. Did he play below what they deemed to be acceptable? Probably.
Happy Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 Ford is a rookie and still needs more time to develop into the RT they think he can be. Jets defensive line is very good, plus Greggo is a good DC. Our o-line is much better than last year. It should only get better. 1
Reed83HOF Posted September 8, 2019 Author Posted September 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: So what do you make of that? Are they spelling him for conditioning reasons as you would a RB? No chance. Are they just getting his feet wet? Maybe. Did he play below what they deemed to be acceptable? Probably. They want to start their best 5 and see him as an RT. Have to give him his reps in a live game and coach him up. I don't like rotations personally since you can't get in the groove of a game and with a brand new OL with 4 new starters that you need to become a cohesive unit; I like the rotation even less.
Green Lightning Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 I think he needs to move to guard. That said that was one hell of s D line he went up against today and Greggo did some pretty good stunts and blitzes. He's going to be fine, it was his first game.
Reed83HOF Posted September 8, 2019 Author Posted September 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Iverwig said: Rookie in his first game he gets a pass. Nope, we aren't the dolphins this year. Yes the Jets have a good DL and you would reasonably expect them to win some matchups, Dawkins got shoved back into the pocket, Quinnen got Morse once. Ford had a rough day, which is epxected; being a rookie doesn't absolve you from being critiqued. Nsekhe was in when the game was on the line...
jimmy10 Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 That’s OK, he’s just one member of the committee.
MAJBobby Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Cody played horribly at RT today. I posted this in a few threads, but this near INT from Allen was the result of Ford getting smoked (just one example). Allen should have checked down to Knox on this throw, but Ford needs to improve.This is why Nyscke was in at the end So you are saying a Rookie in his first NFL game. Going up against arguably the best DL in the NFL. Additionally the same guy that was RG for most of Preseason because of INJ Edited September 8, 2019 by MAJBobby 1
N.Y. Orangeman Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 47 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Ty not a pro bowler but he's better than Ford or Mills last year. And Ford will be light years ahead of all of them
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: They want to start their best 5 and see him as an RT. Have to give him his reps in a live game and coach him up. I don't like rotations personally since you can't get in the groove of a game and with a brand new OL with 4 new starters that you need to become a cohesive unit; I like the rotation even less. Im with you on the groove and rotation. But if you want to start your best five, play your best five. He isn’t going to learn on the fly watching from the sideline once every three series. ThTs what sideline time is for when the defense is on the field. Between series and on Mondays should be this kids film review. Let him play, make mistakes and experience the game. By all means he is physically where he needs to be. The mental part of the game isn’t going to happen mid-game IMO. I like the idea of Ford at guard this year. It will allow him to use his physicality and minimize the effect of his error. If they eventually want to kick him to tackle, great. Spain wasn’t all that great today and Feliciano was full of penalties. It wouldn’t hurt the OL to have Ford play G 5 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: And Ford will be light years ahead of all of them What do you mean, will be? Aren’t we playing to win?
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Cody played horribly at RT today. I posted this in a few threads, but this near INT from Allen was the result of Ford getting smoked (just one example). Allen should have checked down to Knox on this throw, but Ford needs to improve.This is why Nyscke was in at the end Hes a rookie but i think he should be inside. Rt could be priority one this offseason. 1
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