KRC Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 I hated starting a new topic on this, but it did not fit neatly in other topics. Just received my invitation to this event: The Liberal Arts Imperative in the Digital Age Quote What’s the importance of a liberal arts education in the 21st century, in which society is becoming both increasingly global and technologically advanced? The idea of a liberal arts education has come under attack in recent years, with critics charging that colleges and universities are too expensive, too difficult to access, and don’t teach the skills needed in the workforce of the future. But Lynn Pasquerella, President of the Association of American Colleges and Universities says there’s a disconnect: Instead of debating value, we should be focusing on how a liberal arts education combined with technology should give students the skills not just to succeed in the workplace, but also solve the world’s most pressing problems. So are liberal arts institutions developing this integrative approach to learning that breaks down silos and brings together disciplines? How can schools focus on giving students more practice on working on real-world problems? What skills do employers need in their future employees and how will schools give students the tools to be successful? So, are they looking to teach the PhD in 16th Century French Feminist Literature student how to code?
row_33 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 force every humanities discipline back into Philology and it would be a good start all over again
3rdnlng Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 All you liberal art majors would have been much better off and would have many tens of thousands less in debt if you'd have just went with this:
Dr. Who Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 The modern academy is corrupt and creates degrees that often glorify the inane, if not the perverse. That does not devalue the authentic meaning behind the liberal arts. The point of a life devoted to contemplation, to meaning beyond the merely pragmatic, is to foster in human society the understanding that limited goods are ordered towards a transcendent end that does not fit into utilitarian calculations. A society that does not know this may be technologically sophisticated, but it is nonetheless barbarism. Civilization always required the sage, the saint, the artist to constantly remind folks to look beyond the time-consuming, arduous aspects of simply making a living towards renewed wonder. It's easy to laugh at folks who are today inclined towards the liberal arts as entitled snowflakes and the like, and students today are indulged and often also at the same time victims of indoctrination and prisoners of ideology. Authentic liberal arts actually protect one from that kind of mental straightjacket. Ultimately, the liberal arts are liberating because they do not aim to solve the world's problems. They keep one open to a dimension of beauty and mystery that is elemental and often lost amidst first world noise and third world misery.
John Adams Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain.
/dev/null Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John Adams said: I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain. Our grandfathers fought Nazis so our grandchildren could have their choice of gender neutral pronouns Edited September 7, 2019 by /dev/null
Koko78 Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 12 hours ago, /dev/null said: Our grandfathers fought Nazis so our grandchildren could have their choice of gender neutral pronouns Are you assuming their gender and familial identities?!?
3rdnlng Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: Are you assuming their gender and familial identities?!? So, some old people did something?
Koko78 Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: So, some old people did something? Don't be such an ageist, that's not very woke. Some conflict-involved people did some things to fascist-involved persons in the 1940's, before returning home to procreate (with potentially inadequate permission given.)
3rdnlng Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Don't be such an ageist, that's not very woke. Some conflict-involved people did some things to fascist-involved persons in the 1940's, before returning home to procreate (with potentially inadequate permission given.) You are forgetting that the ***** in our armor came from the other side of the world.
mead107 Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 Still say that 50% of kids that go to college should not have wasted their money or parents money. 1 1
row_33 Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 22 hours ago, /dev/null said: Our grandfathers fought Nazis so our grandchildren could have their choice of gender neutral pronouns Yes... they did....
KD in CA Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 I'm happy to have my girls pursue liberal arts degrees because I think there is value in studying philosophy and history and such. However, they'll need to have a plan for what comes next....be it graduate work or a career path that doesn't require work in the food service industry or some other dead end J-O-B. 1
/dev/null Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I'm happy to have my girls pursue liberal arts degrees because I think there is value in studying philosophy and history and such. However, they'll need to have a plan for what comes next....be it graduate work or a career path that doesn't require work in the food service industry or some other dead end J-O-B. there's always porn
KD in CA Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, /dev/null said: there's always porn Fortunately I didn't name any of them Tiffani or Amber.
row_33 Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, /dev/null said: there's always porn
3rdnlng Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 The issue with getting an undergraduate degree in a liberal arts venue is that it rarely opens the door to a high paying job. A person needs a graduate degree to start out fast. STEM degrees get people started off quickly. 8 minutes ago, /dev/null said: there's always porn Trust me, it's not all it's made out to be. Think of having to have sex 4-5 times a day with one, two or three of the most beautiful women at a time. Exhausting.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 ...a degree in "General Studies"?......200 grand for THAT?......
row_33 Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Trust me, it's not all it's made out to be. Think of having to have sex 4-5 times a day with one, two or three of the most beautiful women at a time. Exhausting. know 3 dudes who tried out, one was able to perform to expectations but didn't get a call back the other two were unable to meet expectations under stress, not even a smidgen 16 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: The issue with getting an undergraduate degree in a liberal arts venue is that it rarely opens the door to a high paying job. A person needs a graduate degree to start out fast. STEM degrees get people started off quickly. yes, liberal arts degrees are only for those who have $$$-strong homes, are looking for a suitable marriage, or are getting a 4.0 average been that way for at least 80 years now
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