Gruden's destruction of the Raiders

[Formerly Allan in MD]

  On 9/6/2019 at 4:46 PM, Bangarang said:

I’ll be shocked if 3 years from now Gruden is still the HC.

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His brother in DC won't last near that long.

[billsfan_34]

  On 9/6/2019 at 4:43 PM, Rico said:

They may be a mess now, but I think all will be good once they make the move. Vegas Raiders!

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Internal organization will still be the same- I respectfully disagree. They may need to realign. Time will tell.

[PlayoffsPlease]

Antonio Brown saga cost the Raiders zero cash and zero cap hit. It the literal equivalent of signing a guy off the street then cutting him.  Feel free to hate Gruden and Maydock. But this turned out be a high reward zero risk situation, as they managed it.

[Doc]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:35 PM, PlayoffsPlease said:

Antonio Brown saga cost the Raiders zero cash and zero cap hit. It the literal equivalent of signing a guy off the street then cutting him.  Feel free to hate Gruden and Maydock. But this turned out be a high reward zero risk situation, as they managed it.

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Did you forget the (high) 3rd and 5th they gave the Steelers?

[PlayoffsPlease]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:38 PM, Doc said:

 

Did you forget the (high) 3rd and 5th they gave the Steelers?

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yes

[Doc]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:43 PM, PlayoffsPlease said:

yes

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You also missed the drama that no street free agent brings.

[PlayoffsPlease]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:48 PM, Doc said:

 

You also missed the drama that no street free agent brings.

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drama is cost free. it only affects fans. 

[3rdand12]

  On 9/6/2019 at 7:46 PM, BillsVet said:

 

I've always thought, given the haircut, Mark Davis woulda fit in well with Harry and Lloyd in another Dumb and Dumber movie. 

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notice any similarities with Gruden and Davis hairstyles.

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[Doc]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:49 PM, PlayoffsPlease said:

drama is cost free. it only affects fans. 

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You think Gruden, Mayock and the Raiders players weren't affected?  He was supposed to be an integral part of their team/its success. 

[3rdand12]

  On 9/6/2019 at 9:00 PM, reddogblitz said:

I'm still stunned Chucky is doing this whole "rebuild" nonsense.  I thought he'd try to land on a team with a QB on a team that's not that far away.  I thought the Raiders fit with Carr and them going 12-4 two years before.  I think he's nuts and very well may crash and burn.

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yep

[PlayoffsPlease]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:51 PM, Doc said:

 

You think Gruden, Mayock and the Raiders players weren't affected?  He was supposed to be an integral part of their team/its success. 

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I think you were more affected than any of them. They are pros in a business where injuries and other factors change the personnel on a more or less constant basis. 

[3rdand12]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:35 PM, PlayoffsPlease said:

Antonio Brown saga cost the Raiders zero cash and zero cap hit. It the literal equivalent of signing a guy off the street then cutting him.  Feel free to hate Gruden and Maydock. But this turned out be a high reward zero risk situation, as they managed it.

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 it made headlines if that is what you mean

[PlayoffsPlease]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:55 PM, 3rdand12 said:

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 it made headlines if that is what you mean

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I am sure Gruden has a clause in his contract requiring him to minimize headlines. 

[Doc]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:52 PM, PlayoffsPlease said:

I think you were more affected than any of them. They are pros in a business where injuries and other factors change the personnel on a more or less constant basis. 

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If by "affected" you mean "laughing my ass of at what was wholly predicable," then sure. 

[Nextmanup]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:49 PM, PlayoffsPlease said:

drama is cost free. it only affects fans. 

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This is a good point.  So much is made of the "distraction" by fans or the media...watching Hard Knocks you wonder how much any of that stuff actually exists in reality.  I'm sure the players are all concerned with themselves first and foremost, and worrying about what they need to worry about. They all know AB is a great player, so need to worry about that end of it.

 

I would think the average player kind of stayed out of the whole thing and just quietly hoped it all worked out in the end and AB made the team better.  Highly doubt this bothered many players.

 

For sure this bugged Gruden and Mayock though!  But I'm talking about the players.

 

 

Edited September 7, 2019 by Nextmanup

[PlayoffsPlease]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:58 PM, Doc said:

 

If by "affected" you mean "laughing my ass of at what was wholly predicable," then sure. 

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Its clear this is impacting your  emotions far more than Grudens. 

[Doc]

  On 9/7/2019 at 8:36 PM, PlayoffsPlease said:

Its clear this is impacting your  emotions far more than Grudens. 

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Yup.  Laughter is great for the emotions. 

 

But continue with the "the Raiders lost nothing by pursuing AB" theory. 

[PlayoffsPlease]

  On 9/7/2019 at 8:38 PM, Doc said:

 

Yup.  Laughter is great for the emotions. 

 

But continue with the "the Raiders lost nothing by pursuing AB" theory. 

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I agreed they lost the draft picks. Continuing fighting your straw men.  You are winning against them. 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

  On 9/7/2019 at 7:52 PM, PlayoffsPlease said:

I think you were more affected than any of them. They are pros in a business where injuries and other factors change the personnel on a more or less constant basis. 

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Actually Gruden said in his presser today that it had been an emotional time for him and he was upset. This one stung him and you can tell, he's totally bummed he didn't have a chance to work with AB during the season.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxsB56uv9-k

 

 

 

[QCity]

The Raiders just paid 2 draft picks so the Pats could sign AB.