OAK planning to suspend AB (edit: apologized, playing)

[Codyny13]

I actually believe that Beane nixed this trade. He wanted the player, but at his price.  Brown wanted a new contract and more guarantees, to which Beane promptly told Rosenhaus they weren’t prepared to do that. Once Drew related this to AB, AB wanted nothing to do with the Bills...and that’s what you heard in the audio.  Brown’s assertion that he never wanted to come here I think has all the to do about money...and maybe Jordan Poyer? ??‍♂️

[Sig1Hunter]

11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I don't think David would have said it on air if he didn't talk to his brother first.  

Right. It’s pretty much coming from Derek, via David. A strong indication that the end is nigh. It will be very interesting to see the Gruden/Mayock power struggle play out if reports are true that they were split on bringing AB in in the first place. 

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Right. It’s pretty much coming from Derek, via David. A strong indication that the end is nigh. It will be very interesting to see the Gruden/Mayock power struggle play out if reports are true that they were split on bringing AB in in the first place. 

 

If AB goes back to that locker room, an atom bomb will happen inside.  

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

If AB goes back to that locker room, an atom bomb will happen inside.  

 

...EXACTLY......ball is in Mayock's court......put up or shut up............plenty MORE incidents ahead.................

[starrymessenger]

46 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Or if brown didn’t particularly want to be in Oakland so he took a deal that the team would be able to void based on his planned behavior 

 

any team would take the contract terms for 53 players. That brown agreed is the surprising part. Especially given his blatant violations immediately after signing 

 

Not surprising. Its because he's crazy.

[Mr. WEO]

31 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Looks like the Raiders have nobody at WR either...

 

And the point is you wanted AB.  You can run away from it all you want but again there's a reason why you were the only person called out on this thread.

 

 

Brown didn't have any suitors except for the Bills and then the Raiders.  And I doubt he planned on losing $30M guaranteed, seeing as how money was his only motivation for quitting on the Steelers and going to the Raiders.  He's just so mentally unstable that he can't help himself.

 

And I'm hoping that when they suspend him and take away his guaranteed money, that it's a long and protracted fight.  That will provide lots of entertainment.

 

 

I pointed out over and over that Beane wanted AB, "for the right price", as you said.  The rest you are making up.

 

Many "called me out" when I said Beane wanted AB, saying that there would be no way he would go after AB due to "locker room" BS and "chemistry" because of Poyer's wifeetc.

 

Then the story of Beane's interest came out and they were all proven wrong.  Poof.

 

And why did Beane show an interest?  The answer is obvious, doc:  he was looking down his WR roster at Ray Ray Mccluskey, Bo Bo Foster, Jo Jo Brown, and Jesus Jones and saying...."we got a deficit at WR".

 

He was right to take a sniff at AB and I said so.  Before and after the fact.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

I pointed out over and over that Beane wanted AB, "for the right price", as you said.  The rest you are making up.

 

Many "called me out" when I said Beane wanted AB, saying that there would be no way he would go after AB due to "locker room" BS and "chemistry" because of Poyer's wifeetc.

 

Then the story of Beane's interest came out and they were all proven wrong.  Poof.

 

And why did Beane show an interest?  The answer is obvious, doc:  he was looking down his WR roster at Ray Ray Mccluskey, Bo Bo Foster, Jo Jo Brown, and Jesus Jones and saying...."we got a deficit at WR".

 

He was right to take a sniff at AB and I said so.  Before and after the fact.

 

...STILL have a hard time with McDermott buying in.......this azzclown fits the "process" like a size 14 foot in a size 6 shoe.......

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...STILL have a hard time with McDermott buying in.......this azzclown fits the "process" like a size 14 foot in a size 6 shoe.......

 

Every team has "the Process".  McD has nothing unique in that regard.  All the azzclowns find a spot on a roster. 

 

No way Beane would have made a move for AB without McD saying "check it out". 

 

"Process" is what they feed the press mand the fans.  But these guys know (as does the roster) that you put up with some azzclownery for the right talent.  This has always been the way.

[dubs]

45 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

And the point is you wanted AB.  You can run away from it all you want but again there's a reason why you were the only person called out on this thread.

 

Who care what people’s position on AB was at the time. Jeez.  Both positions were perfectly reasonable. On one hand he’s one of the best receivers in the league and fills a massive void for the Bills and they had a ton of cap room. On the other he’s demonstrated he was a huge risk. Some people wanted to take the risk, others didn’t. 

 

As it turns out, this looks like a huge mistake for the raiders. But if he comes back in week 2 and goes for 1,4000/10, then it will all blow over. 

 

 

[Rocket94]

2 hours ago, mattynh said:

I was talking about the bills.  They had a deal in place to get brown in the off season but brown refused to come here 

Got it. 

[Rocket94]

32 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...STILL have a hard time with McDermott buying in.......this azzclown fits the "process" like a size 14 foot in a size 6 shoe.......

10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound bag!

[Rocket94]

40 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...STILL have a hard time with McDermott buying in.......this azzclown fits the "process" like a size 14 foot in a size 6 shoe.......

Who knows what happened to Brown. He obviously had a meltdown, and these things dont happen overnight. Beane and McDermott may have sensed that. The performance vs behavior ratio was not worth it. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

Who knows what happened to Brown. He obviously had a meltdown, and these things dont happen overnight. Beane and McDermott may have sensed that. The performance vs behavior ratio was not worth it. 

 

...agree bud.....I could see McBeane making an inquiry, but still don't buy there was any offer or imminent deal......just my opinion though.............he's Mayock's headache now....

[Rocket94]

3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...agree bud.....I could see McBeane making an inquiry, but still don't buy there was any offer or imminent deal......just my opinion though.............he's Mayock's headache now....

Agreed. Beane may have attempted to approach this situation "normally" with the intention of improving the Bills. When the red flags popped up it was time to move on. 

[apuszczalowski]

I think he is setting himself up for a HUGE payday...........

 

 

 

 

 

From the NFL and the company that made his favorite helmet because he has definitely suffered some major brain damage over the last few years.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, apuszczalowski said:

I think he is setting himself up for a HUGE payday...........

 

 

 

 

 

From the NFL and the company that made his favorite helmet because he has definitely suffered some major brain damage over the last few years.

 

..think he needs a weekend with Dr Ruth..............

[Rocket94]

5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

..think he needs a weekend with Dr Ruth..............

He is obviously a troubled guy. Even if he laughs all the way to the bank, he still needs help.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, mattynh said:

I was talking about the bills.  They had a deal in place to get brown in the off season but brown refused to come here 

 

Depends upon who one believes whether the deal was in place.  It seems likely Beane talked to Pittsburgh about a deal.  Whether it fell through because Pitts wanted more than we'd pay or because the Bills wanted AB to play out his contract, seems unclear. 

 

GMs can't be counted on to tell the straight story about their deals, but I tend to believe Beane has more connection to reality and facts than AB.  So there's that.

[YoloinOhio]

3 hours ago, mattynh said:

I was talking about the bills.  They had a deal in place to get brown in the off season but brown refused to come here 

Nope. No deal in place. 

 

(in the original tweet, "this" and "close" are on opposite sides of the page)

Edited September 6, 2019 by Hapless Bills Fan
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[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

You gotta think David got the straight gouge from his kid brother if he said that.

If I were a Raiders player, especially the Raiders QB, I'd be beyond fed up.  First the guy freezes his feet off and disappears to treat them.  Then the helmet thing.

Meanwhile everyone else is grinding and working on the playbook.  And this is not a situation where the guy has a history with the team and has helped them win for years.

 

I think Mayock was in a lose-lose situation.   Yeah, yeah, I know, stars get treated differently.  They get to have bluetooth speakers and their own mini fridge stocked as they like at their locker.  Maybe they go to the head of the line waiting for the masseur or they get to bring their own person into the facility.  But when it comes to the fundamentals - meetings, practices etc - the star has to at least pretend to be part of the team. 

 

Mayock may have been trying to work 1:1 with Brown and bring him into the fold, but it had gotten to where he had to draw a line I think.