OAK planning to suspend AB (edit: apologized, playing)

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

A suspension of Antonio Brown would wipe out $29.125 million in guarantees

Posted by Mike Florio on September 5, 2019, 1:11 PM EDT

 

Assuming that a suspension would void the guarantees, the Raiders would be able to cut Brown at any point and owe him nothing further. They could even do it now, turning the Brown experiment into a $1 million mistake (signing bonus)— along with the third-round and fifth-round pick they surrendered to the Steelers acquire him.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/05/a-suspension-of-antonio-brown-would-wipe-out-29-125-million-in-guarantees/

 

 

I would respect the Raiders so much if they did suspend him.

[eball]

1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

I’m glad Ryan Leaf got his life in order but I’m not quite sure why he thinks he knows what’s going on inside AB’s head.

 

I think he explains why in the very tweet you quoted.

[ddaryl]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Yeah, who would want the best WR in football?

 

Still, not quite as stoopid as declaring Tyrod Taylor a franchise QB after 2015!

 

 

 

I didn't and still would not. Best ever is for nothing if your a prima donna douche bag distraction

 

Anybody with a tad bit of common sense knew AB would make waves and be a distraction.

[thebandit27]

9 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Yeesh, you should see a doctor for that BDS.

 

We can name a ton of things that teams have done that were more stupid than trading for AB, but trading for AB is pretty unbelievably stupid. 

 

He'll never be considered the best WR in the NFL until he decides to stop wearing that skirt.

 

he's lead the NFL in receptions, yards, or TDs in 4 of the last 5 seasons.  In terms of putting up numbers and consistency, it's not even a debate; he's been the best.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

As a manager of 50+ personalities, sometimes it not what you said, it's how you say it. I think in AB's case, same things could have been said in a private setting and yes, I think he would have reacted differently. Him being a "diva" (not what I would call it), one on one is always the best way to handle that type of personality.  

 

I'm pretty sure they've met in one on one situations.  It didn't get through to him obviously and it doesn't look like it ever will.

[ddaryl]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I would respect the Raiders so much if they did suspend him.

 

at this point how do yo not cut bait and save your salary cap ass if this is an option

[thebandit27]

1 minute ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

I didn't and still would not. Best ever is for nothing if your a prima donna douche bag distraction

 

Anybody with a tad bit of common sense knew AB would make waves and be a distraction.

 

This is hilarious how many people "knew" this would happen when he caused zero problems for the previous 9 seasons and was an all-pro for 4 consecutive seasons.

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, ddaryl said:

 

at this point how do yo not cut bait and save your salary cap ass if this is an option

 

I think they would save on the guarantees but still would get the dead cap penalty right?

[JaCrispy]

1 hour ago, njbuff said:

 

If the Raiders cut Brown, I hope nobody touches him.

I would be willing to bet that that Raiders will be the last NFL team Brown plays for...something happened to this guy, in the last few years, where he has just lost all touch with reality.

[Deranged Rhino]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Knock on wood if you’re with me. 

 

[Sig1Hunter]

10 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said:

Thats the crazy thing, week 17 of last season I was like AB is a selfish player and doesnt put the team first.  Since then he's blown the doors off that theory, is there some other factor were missing here?

 

Some other factor? Other than him being legit mentally ill?

[ddaryl]

Just now, thebandit27 said:

 

This is hilarious how many people "knew" this would happen when he caused zero problems for the previous 9 seasons and was an all-pro for 4 consecutive seasons.

 

 

I knew it would happen.. You can tell on how he was acting in Pittsburg. To be honest I did not see it happening at this level, and not so quickly in the preseason

[ngbills]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This is assuming a lot.

 

"Successful" and "unsuccessful" always depend upon how the player is valued by both sides.  Beane did do something "positive" if he had an appropriate valuation on AB and didn't exceed it. 

 

There's also the possibility that in a different environment, with different personalities, AB wouldn't be in the same place causing the same kerfluffle.  I personally tend to think AB is a total headcase now and can't help himself, but it is a possibility.

Fact is we tried to get him. My point is some are talking like Beane and the Bills should somehow get a pat on the back that he is not here. Here is the real deal

1) We wanted him

2) We didnt get him

3) He is crazy

4) Thankfully he is not our problem, no credit to us for that 

[Beast]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

 

I think he explains why in the very tweet you quoted.

 

No *****?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

31 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...so week 1 suspension voids $29 mil in guarantees?........well Mayock, what's the call?..........

 

Mike Tannenbaum

 

✔ @RealTannenbaum

 · 1h

 

The significance of a suspension is that it would void (assuming normal contract language) his $29,125,000 in contract guarantees. However, if he's on the Active Roster on opening day his $14,625,000 '19 salary becomes guaranteed because he's a Veteran

 

Have to suspend him just for that.

 

 

[ddaryl]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I think they would save on the guarantees but still would get the dead cap penalty right?

 

 

I would think they would have to suspend him for the season.. Not sure how they can get out of this midway but who knows

[Buffalo_Stampede]

It's the Bills year.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

..The Commish could be next up as the plot thickens..........

 

Antonio Brown may have a problem under the Personal Conduct Policy

Posted by Mike Florio on September 5, 2019, 2:42 PM EDT

 

If NFL Media’s report that Raiders receiver Antonio Brown threatened to punch Raiders G.M. Mike Mayock in the face is accurate, Brown may have a problem separate and apart from his potential team-issued suspension.

 

Brown could be facing discipline under the league’s Personal Conduct Policy.

 

The Personal Conduct Policy expressly prohibits, among other things, “[v]iolent or threatening behavior toward another employee or a third party in any workplace.” Brown’s alleged conduct presumably would fall within the boundaries of that specific portion of the rule.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/05/antonio-brown-may-have-a-problem-under-the-personal-conduct-policy/

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

As a manager of 50+ personalities, sometimes it not what you said, it's how you say it. I think in AB's case, same things could have been said in a private setting and yes, I think he would have reacted differently. Him being a "diva" (not what I would call it), one on one is always the best way to handle that type of personality.  

 

With all respect, do we really know that Mayock didn't meet and otherwise communicate privately with AB and give it his "best managed behaviors" shot?

 

As you must know, it is also required at times to document some stuff in writing (or legally it didn't happen).  It's entirely possible there was a private conversation, then AB blew up at the legal "i" dotting afterwards, right?

 

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, ddaryl said:

 

 

I would think they would have to suspend him for the season.. Not sure how they can get out of this midway but who knows

 

If he physically threatens the teams GM, 61 year old man, then he should be suspended for the season.  I really hope they do it.