Happy Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Man, this whole thing makes me sad. Antonio Brown wasn't handed anything in life. At one point he was homeless as a teenager. He was unheralded coming out of college and was drafted in the 6th round. Where did this ego come from? Most likely the people who he surrounded himself with in Pittsburgh. AB was probably put on a pedi stool and believed the hype. 1
BADOLBILZ Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Logic said: I already know how this one ends: Raiders suspend AB for conduct detrimental to the team. His $30million in guarantees are voided. The Raiders cut him outright and admit defeat on the trade. The Patriots sign him and -- suddenly, realizing this is his last chance and his best shot to win a Super Bowl -- he shapes up and acts like a consummate professional. The Patriots offense with Brown on one side and Gordon on the other and Edelman in the slot becomes unstoppable, the Patriots go to their 4th straight Super Bowl and win their 7th ring. So it is written, and so it shall be. Yeah it's not good news in any way for the Bills that this is happening. I remember back in the day when this board loved to mock Randy Moss and the Vikings and Raiders for drafting and/trading for him. I also remember he and the Patriots scoring 8 straight TD's in a night game at Buffalo and the Pats going 16-0 after they traded a ham sandwich for him. AB is a great, game changing football player...........it was better that he was in Gruden's sh*t show rather than on some contender singing for his supper on a non-guaranteed deal. 4
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Do yourself a favor and don't ever listen. Secondly, I have my suspicions on a few posters who may in fact actually be Schopp in disguise but I'll leave that for another day... You just described what would be the best poll ever 2
mjt328 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 There are conflicting reports about how hard the Bills/Beane actually went after Antonio Brown. Some say we just did our due-diligence and checked on the price tag. Others say a deal was almost done, and Brown himself nixed it. Either way... I am so happy we avoided this headache. NFL history has shown it over... and over... and over. Success is about the "sum of the parts" more than individual star-power. Coaches will deal with off-field problems, legal troubles, and even a lack of talent. But nobody wants to deal with a selfish "me first" guy who causes distractions in the locker room.
JoPar_v2 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: Most likely the people who he surrounded himself with in Pittsburgh. AB was probably put on a pedi stool and believed the hype. Got drunk off his own success.
Jerome007 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 He really is class A idiot. He doesn't make the Raiders look bad, just himself. Though he does make the Steelers look damn smart ha ha. 1
H2o Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, major said: I want to hear the owner of the raiders give a presser?
H2o Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Most likely the people who he surrounded himself with in Pittsburgh. AB was probably put on a pedi stool and believed the hype. Nah, if he was put on a "pedi stool" his feet wouldn't be in the shape they were in. Just now, Reed83HOF said: God this guy is such a child 1
ColoradoBills Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Classic teenage girl move...................well done AB! 2 1 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Poor David Carr, what did he do to get unfollowed?? 2
ngbills Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, eball said: What "this board" does is compare Beane to what came before him -- 20 years of s-h-i-t. You're blaming him for Davis and Boldin? Jesus. Beane's job is to find players who might fit Buffalo's culture and help them win. If they get here and don't fit (for whatever reason) that's not on Beane, it's on the player. Maybe Davis and Boldin, seeing for themselves it was going to be a long season in Buffalo, decided as aging veterans they didn't want to lay their bodies on the line for results that would come a year or more later. As for the AB situation? Beane looked at a roster void of superstar WR talent and made inquiries about AB. That was stupid? You have chosen to believe the narrative that Beane was begging AB to come to Buffalo and was rejected. Not only is that explanation improbable, it goes against everything we've seen and heard from McD and Beane since they arrived. What should we believe -- that on this one occasion Beane suddenly decided to act completely out of character? You're the one going out of your way to place blame. The most reasonable and plausible explanation is that Beane and the Steelers spoke in generalities about the possible terms of a trade. The discussions got far enough along where it became necessary to gauge what AB's contract demands were going to be. Did the discussions end because AB told Rosenhaus there's no way he would come to Buffalo? Of course not; they ended because AB's price was not something Beane wanted to pay. The very reason Beane didn't agree to AB's price is because he was looking at the locker room culture and decided (accurately) that it wasn't worth it. No "football people" are laughing at Buffalo and Brandon Beane, I assure you. I couldn't care less what the "click here" media types and ignorant fans think and say. As we have seen, it's foolhardy to take anything that comes out of AB's mouth seriously -- but YOU are going to believe it when AB says he laughed at coming to Buffalo. Riiiiiiiight. Are you willing to go on the record right here and now that you find AB to have more credibility and integrity than Beane? Surely you aren't believing AB's agent, Drew Rosenhaus? Because why would Rosenhaus ever say anything to paint his client in the best light? Rosenhaus' comments about the helmet situation were a joke as well. If you simply stopped for one second to look at the whole picture of what McD and Beane have done since they arrived, you might find you've missed out on enjoying a process that appears to be primed for sustained success while instead you've been busy "protecting" yourself from disappointment. Related to Beane - Point is the AB situation is not an example of "Thank God we have Beane". Beane did not save us from having AB. Whaley or whoever before him would not have gotten AB. Whatever other spin people want to make on it to push a Beane is great agenda is absurd. We tried to get the guy and didnt - no credit due for that. Its a reach but IMO but if anything the fact we even tried to get him shows we were not the prophetic genius people try to imply.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Ok this is my last comment because you guys care a heck of a lot more about this than I do, but got like 30 replies. ??? You and the others are completely missing the point. I didn’t say not to hold him responsible, I said how he handled the relationship with AB. You guys can’t seem to separate the difference in holding someone accountable and how you go about holding someone accountable. I have literally explained my reasoning at least 10 times now and everyone keeps replying with the same comments that aren’t even what I am saying. Mayock took a hard line stance with a diva player. Never going to work with a guy like Brown. AB doesn’t respond well if he doesn’t feel like he can trust someone like Mayock or if he feels disrespected. As a GM, you have to understand that and taking those comments in August to the media was a big mistake by Mayock. He shound have kept it private and talked to AB man to man only. He could have sat AB down man to man and discussed their stance in the fines instead of sending him a letter too. I understand your point to a degree. At the bottom line, though, it's a business, and in a business at the end if it's not in writing, it didn't happen. So even if Mayock and AB did sit down and discuss face to face, Mayock did (IMO, from a business/legal POV) put the fines in writing. Did he have to make the public call-out over the helmet? Yes and no...it's part of the GM's job to represent the team to the public, and the public most definitely wanted to know what the team's stance was and what the team was doing over the helmet. He could have worded it differently, I think. My personal viewpoint is that I think AB has become someone with whom one does not have discussions...I think he was accustomed to screaming at Steelers coaches and players and having it pass unremarked, and possibly to other "special" treatment such as being forgiven fines for missing this and that. I think it's a fairly good bet that if Mayock did try to sit down and discuss 1:1 with AB, either Brown blew him off and wouldn't do it, or the discussion consisted of Brown screaming at Mayock. But that's just my personal viewpoint and the only evidence I have for it is other flaky Brown behavior and the episodes described by a former Steelers player (linked above).
Jauronimo Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Uh ohhh. AB just changed his facebook status from "Raiders" to "Its complicated". Not good. 12
Happy Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, H2o said: Nah, if he was put on a "pedi stool" his feet wouldn't be in the shape they were in. I see what you did there. Autocorrect separated the word "pedistool"
DrDawkinstein Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Next, he's going to set his relationship status to: It's Complicated Dammit, J-Mo beat me to the joke Edited September 5, 2019 by DrDawkinstein 1
dubs Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Uh ohhh. AB just changed his facebook status from "Raiders" to "Its complicated". Not good. Haha. Is AB a 14 yo girl? So bizarre!! 2
wppete Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: What are the odds they just release AB? I would if I was management. Get rid of this headcase.
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 What a wonderful example he's showing his kids.
Reed83HOF Posted September 5, 2019 Author Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: What a wonderful example he's showing his kids. What does AB look like?
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