row_33 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: 7/12 playoff teams from 2018 lost in week 1; 3 of those were division losses. It's one game how many divisions are basically won by a team right now? besides the Pats.... can't lose to bad teams in that division. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, billybob71 said: All bills games prior to November 24th are unimportant. On November 24th Billybob 71 has decided to attend the bills broncos game so therefore that one becomes all important.? I thought the same thing but Actually ... Any games after Sept ARE important. I'm a homer. ergo - The NYETS are a bad team
TigerJ Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 Besides this being a division opponent, I don't buy the sentiment that early games don't matter as much. When teams dig themselves a hole early in the season, it creates a lot of pressure late in the season. I hate to be out of the playoffs in week 15 thinking, "if only we had played better in week one against a beatable opponent. . ."
Lurker Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: 7/12 playoff teams from 2018 lost in week 1; 3 of those were division losses. It's one game * Saints (went 13-2 the rest of the way) * Bears (went 12-3 the rest of the way) * Chargers (went 12-3 the rest of the way) Texans (went 11-4 the rest of the way) Seahawks (went 10-5 the rest of the way) Colts (went 10-5 the rest of the way) Cowboys (went 10-5 the rest of the way) * Division game IMO, the Bills will be better than last year. But there's very little chance they match those week 2-17 records this year. This is a big game... 1
thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, row_33 said: how many divisions are basically won by a team right now? besides the Pats.... can't lose to bad teams in that division. Very well then: apparently the season is on the line on Sunday!
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: Very well then: apparently the season is on the line on Sunday! I'm with you on this. It's one game. One I think the Bills are gonna win. But I'm not gonna lose my stuff if they lose.
dje85 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 4 hours ago, elijah said: Yards per pass sent out a good tweet about it. He said with the Dolphins on a full out tank, a week one victory would essentially mean we have to go 7-6 throughout the rest of the season to make the playoffs because of two surefire wins against the Dolphins. It makes sense and I think it’s a good point, but hard to just count wins like that. Never doubt a Fitzpatrick led team in his first year. The Dolphins will steal a few games they aren’t supposed to under first year with a new team Fitzmagic. He always kills it with his new teams year one.
Lurker Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Very well then: apparently the season is on the line on Sunday! Nice straw man. The thread's premise is "its a big game." Not "it's a season-killer if we lose"...
RobbRiddick Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 I don't like all this talk of assuming the Dolphins are 2 guaranteed wins. They're going to be BAD for sure, and we SHOULD win them, but wins in the NFL are always tough to get and Fitz is dangerous. They might also pull together through adversity and be a little better than people think. I'd mark them both down as wins but certainly wouldn't guarantee it - look at the Vikes/Bills game from last year.
thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Lurker said: Nice straw man. The thread's premise is "its a big game." Not "it's a season-killer if we lose"... I have had 2 different posters tell me that the playoffs more or less hinge on this game. Week 1. Which is, quite simply, silly.
Doc Brown Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 I would argue the two Jets games are the most important games of the year from a tiebreaking standpoint if both teams fight for a WC spot.
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: 7/12 playoff teams from 2018 lost in week 1; 3 of those were division losses. It's one game 2018 is an aberration. I am guessing stats was not your strong suit in school.
Foxx Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, elijah said: Yards per pass sent out a good tweet about it. He said with the Dolphins on a full out tank, a week one victory would essentially mean we have to go 7-6 throughout the rest of the season to make the playoffs because of two surefire wins against the Dolphins. It makes sense and I think it’s a good point, but hard to just count wins like that. and if we extrapolate this out... 2 losses against the Patriots means we have to go 7-4 throughout the rest of the schedule. the Phins and Pats games kind of wash each other out, no?
thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, PlayoffsPlease said: 2018 is an aberration. I am guessing stats was not your strong suit in school. You'd be wrong (and fantastically wrong at that), and you'd be missing the point. When it comes right down to it, historical percentages don't matter at all for this upcoming season. That's the point of my reference to 2018. You can lose in week 1, even to a divisional opponent, and make the playoffs. You can even lose in week 1 and make the Super Bowl. Week 1 isn't worth any more than any other week in the final standings...that is the very simple point that I was making. Case-in-point: coming into 2018, only 28 out of 223 teams that started 0-2 made the postseason since the NFL expanded it to 12 teams in 1990. Then, last season, both Houston and Seattle did exactly that. Nobody is under the delusion that starting 0-1 with a divisional loss is better than starting 1-0 with a divisional road win. Some of us, however, believe that the season will not be over if they lose. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, thebandit27 said: If they win, they'll be 1-0, and have 15 games remaining. If they lose, they'll be 0-1, and have 15 games remaining. Not trying to be a jerk, but that's really the long and short of it. It's one game. ....sorry, but flash cards are NOT allowed.......
dave mcbride Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I have had 2 different posters tell me that the playoffs more or less hinge on this game. Week 1. Which is, quite simply, silly. yeah, that's right. The way I see it, it's a more important than usual game - i.e., more important than the Steelers or Cowboys road games - given that it's a divisional matchup against a team that is beatable, but also because I will not be surprised that we end up battling the Jets for a final playoff spot. We shouldn't lose sight of that last possibility. But if they lose, it is just one game and not the end of the world. Edited September 3, 2019 by dave mcbride
billsfan89 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 It's on the road which isn't tragic but if you are looking at the Bills first three games (Jets away, Giants away, and Bengals home) 3-0 is a legit possibility and honestly if they go anything less than 2-1 going into the week 4 Pats game I think it is curtains on any playoff expectations. I think honestly a 3-0 start is what this team needs. Overall I think that the Jets game is very very important and close to a need game if you look at the schedule going forward.
thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: yeah, that's right. The way I see it, it's a more important than usual game - i.e., more important than the Steelers or Cowboys road games - given that it's a divisional matchup against a team that is beatable, but also because I will not be surprised that we end up battling the Jets for a final playoff spot. We shouldn't lose sight of that last possibility. But if they lose, it is just one game and not the end of the world. Yeah, exactly this.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 All games are important, even if you lose them all.
Gugny Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: yeah, that's right. The way I see it, it's a more important than usual game - i.e., more important than the Steelers or Cowboys road games - given that it's a divisional matchup against a team that is beatable, but also because I will not be surprised that we end up battling the Jets for a final playoff spot. We shouldn't lose sight of that last possibility. But if they lose, it is just one game and not the end of the world. I agree. We're gonna win some we "shouldn't," win and lose some that we shouldn't lose. This is a pretty even matchup on the road. Losing would suck ... but, as you said, not the end of the world. Getting our asses handed to us ... that would be less-than-stellar. Being a division game, on the road, to start the season ... I win would be fantastic. But I'm with you, as far as it being just one game. 1
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