BigDingus Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 Even though Shady looked to be past his prime, he was still a household name known around the country. With him being released, who is their a player left who's name, jersey, personality, etc. brings attention to the team by themselves alone? When McBeane took over, we had Sammy Watkins, LeSean McCoy, Marcell Dareus, and arguably Kyle Williams. We got rid of Watkins prior to the regular season starting, eventually picked up Kelvin Benjamin (who wasn't a "star" but was at least well known), then proceeded to trade or cut them, with Williams eventually retiring. Yes, I know we all know Jerry Hughes, he's great, but most people don't know a thing about him (not like he brings a lot of attention to himself either, which I'm fine with). Most NFL fans tend to at least know the starting QB for each team, so Allen may be at least generally known, but aside from him we really don't have any recognition anymore. At this point, I think the 1 year rental RB in Frank Gore is our biggest "star." Ed Oliver could be the bigger name, but I'm not so sure many people associate him with the Bills or even remember he's a part of this team. Every time I discuss the Bills with my NFL friends, they seem to have already forgotten all about him. Hell, I still hear far more about Nathan Peterman when discussing the Bills than anyone else by a LONG shot. With that being said, who's most likely to jump to that status & become the name people will bring up most often in relation to the Bills? If they had to name a handful of players, who would be those names? I'd say Devin Singletary, Ed Oliver (if he isn't already), Tremaine Edmunds and obvious Josh Allen if he can even just manage a solid year overall. Outside of that, we're pretty low on personality & national recognition, which I'm not saying is a "bad" thing, it just is what it is. The only bad thing is whether we're considered a desirable team for viewership potential. The lack of nationally televised games, or even games outside of the 1:00/12:00 CST time slot is heavily influenced by not only prior record, but by star power. Market matters, but if a team has a lot of personality & intrigue surrounding its players, it becomes a hot candidate for prime time games. ************************* TL;DR - Do we have any real "stars" left? Who do you think potential future stars could be? Do those of you who live outside of Buffalo know people or have friends who don't follow the team but are aware of big name players?
oldmanfan Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Even though Shady looked to be past his prime, he was still a household name known around the country. With him being released, who is their a player left who's name, jersey, personality, etc. brings attention to the team by themselves alone? When McBeane took over, we had Sammy Watkins, LeSean McCoy, Marcell Dareus, and arguably Kyle Williams. We got rid of Watkins prior to the regular season starting, eventually picked up Kelvin Benjamin (who wasn't a "star" but was at least well known), then proceeded to trade or cut them, with Williams eventually retiring. Yes, I know we all know Jerry Hughes, he's great, but most people don't know a thing about him (not like he brings a lot of attention to himself either, which I'm fine with). Most NFL fans tend to at least know the starting QB for each team, so Allen may be at least generally known, but aside from him we really don't have any recognition anymore. At this point, I think the 1 year rental RB in Frank Gore is our biggest "star." Ed Oliver could be the bigger name, but I'm not so sure many people associate him with the Bills or even remember he's a part of this team. Every time I discuss the Bills with my NFL friends, they seem to have already forgotten all about him. Hell, I still hear far more about Nathan Peterman when discussing the Bills than anyone else by a LONG shot. With that being said, who's most likely to jump to that status & become the name people will bring up most often in relation to the Bills? If they had to name a handful of players, who would be those names? I'd say Devin Singletary, Ed Oliver (if he isn't already), Tremaine Edmunds and obvious Josh Allen if he can even just manage a solid year overall. Outside of that, we're pretty low on personality & national recognition, which I'm not saying is a "bad" thing, it just is what it is. The only bad thing is whether we're considered a desirable team for viewership potential. The lack of nationally televised games, or even games outside of the 1:00/12:00 CST time slot is heavily influenced by not only prior record, but by star power. Market matters, but if a team has a lot of personality & intrigue surrounding its players, it becomes a hot candidate for prime time games. ************************* TL;DR - Do we have any real "stars" left? Who do you think potential future stars could be? Do those of you who live outside of Buffalo know people or have friends who don't follow the team but are aware of big name players? Don’t know don’t care. I care about team results. 15 1 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 We have maybe 2 or 3 on defense but unfortunately nothing on offense.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 He's not exactly a big name but White is the only one I have seen on any top 100 lists.
Lurker Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 Well, they do have Lotulelei and he is powerful... 1
Buffalo Junction Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 The only name that matters is Allen. Let’s hope he progresses. 4
Mr. WEO Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 Doomed. Anyway. 9 of 10 households probably have no idea where Sammy Watkins (already on his 3rd team) first played. Few likely knew who Kyle Williams was and couldn't name who Dareus currently plays for. It hasn't been a place for "National Power" or "Big Names" for a a long time. So what? 2
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 Josh, Tremane and TreD all have a good chance. Ed O and Cole are pretty well known.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 It’s time to start making names for themselves. i think the phrase ‘if you don’t know who X is you will soon enough’ about a bunch of the guys on this team. 1
Revealingstorm Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: We have maybe 2 or 3 on defense but unfortunately nothing on offense. Who on defense? I would argue the Bills have no stars at the moment. If Josh can ball out this season then he'll become one.
Big C Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 It's going to come down to Josh Allen and that is it. Star power isn't necessary, but if this team takes the next step the players are going to start getting attention.
Nextmanup Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 Look to the future, not the past. The obvious answer here is Josh Allen. Not that he is a "national name" now per se, but that the expectation is he will blossom into one, starting this season. If he never turns the corner, none of this stuff is going to matter as we'll be headed for regime change anyway. 1
Samwell Tarly Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 Win several meaningful games and that issue resolves itself.... 1
HappyDays Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 Now that we've cut Tyree Jackson all of our household names are gone. His college stats were equivalent to Josh Allen. Do you remember the thread about that? 3
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 Josh Allen will be a household name after this season. But, yes, we have Frank Gore. #4 on the all time rushing list. 1
Mr. WEO Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Now that we've cut Tyree Jackson all of our household names are gone. His college stats were equivalent to Josh Allen. Do you remember the thread about that? He was no TAR--varis Jackson, I can tell you that....
The Plastic Cup Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Don’t know don’t care. I care about team results. I can't believe this isn't the answer for everyone over the age of 12. 1
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 Christian Wade is a household name. 1
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