OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Steve Christie. Although in a couple years we can be easily saying Stephen H ...Lindell was pretty steady......always liked the name "Booth Lustig" though.......
yungmack Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 That would be Pete Gogolak, the first soccer style kicker who revolutionized the kicking game. His being poached by the Giants led to the all out war between the leagues which then led to the merger.
Phil The Thrill Posted August 30, 2019 Author Posted August 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Yep. And the K game was different back then too, they didn’t have the leg that the more modern guys have. I’ll always respect and have a special place in my heart for Scott Norwood. We flubbed that entire final possession in XXV, and then asked the guy to make a kick he had never made on grass in his career. Revisionist history. He kicked that FG when the Bills were up 10-0. It’s not like the score was 7-7 and he kicked the game winner. Norwood rarely was rarely put in those situations. Many Bills fans do have a special place in their hearts like you do....which is my point. I think fans like him and are quick to overlook the fact that in 1990 he was not a very good or reliable kicker
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said: Fun questions from the game coverage last night. Any have talked about their perceived “struggles” from Stephen Hauschka this preseason and whether the Bills should have extended him. I think that some may be underestimating his talent. Because when you look at his production, I think you can ask the question whether Steve is the greatest kicker in Buffalo Bills history. While he has only been in town for a few years, I think you might be hard pressed to find a kicker who was more reliable. He is 7th all-time in NFL history for accuracy and has shown that he can make clutch kicks including long field goals with consistency. IMO there has never been a kicker as talented. The closest one that comes to mind is Steve Christie. For a few seasons after his signing Christie was flat out clutch. But around 1994 his performance and consistency began to slip a bit. IMO there is no one else close. Don’t pretend that Scott Norwood was ever on that level. Even in his Pro Bowl year in 1988, he was not as dependable from outside 40. In fact, the Bills held onto Norwood for too long when they Others like Rian Lindell or Matt Carpenter were ok but not among the league’s best. Only if you count his career before he got to Buffalo. Of course that would make no sense. So the answer to your question is no.
Phil The Thrill Posted August 30, 2019 Author Posted August 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: George Jackewenko or Benny “The Foot” Ricardo. Benny the Foot? 2
msw2112 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 Huasch has been good, but hasn't had the longevity with the Bills to call him our best kicker. Kickers often have a good year or 2, then lose their mojo and either move on or retire. Dan Carpenter was great for the Bills for a couple of years (fairly recently), then just lost it. I hope that the same doesn't happen to Hausch and that in a couple of years we can answer the OP's question with a "Yes." Some the greats - like Adam Vinatieri - have been able to sustain excellence over a really long period of time. Again, I hope that Hausch can do the same!
Phil The Thrill Posted August 30, 2019 Author Posted August 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Only if you count his career before he got to Buffalo. Of course that would make no sense. So the answer to your question is no. I was looking more at the talent level and from a pure ability standpoint. I think Hauschka has been the best kicker ever for the Bills 38 minutes ago, pop gun said: OMG, Why! The season can't start soon enough! Why not?
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 Christie as stated many times over, and its not close. 1 hour ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Scott Norwood had a very nice career here, it gets overshadowed by his biggest miss. He hit some very clutch kicks during the rise up to and run of our AFC championships. I'm sorry, we don't speak of that name here ? 1
row_33 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Element115 said: Steve Christie was better IMO. would have hit that Super Bowl winning FG blindfolded and spun around a dozen times
billsfan89 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 I think Carpenter from 2013 to 2014 was slightly better. Carpenter hit 91.7 and then 89.8% of his field goals in those two seasons only missing from 50+ in 2013. Haush had an excellent 2017 but fell off in 2018. Not sure why they gave Haush a lucrative extension coming off of a somewhat down year.
row_33 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Scott Norwood had a very nice career here, it gets overshadowed by his biggest miss. He hit some very clutch kicks during the rise up to and run of our AFC championships. he was okay, leaning on him that hard to kick a clutch FG from the outer limits of his range was unfair, but that's sports...
That's No Moon Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Scott Norwood had a very nice career here, it gets overshadowed by his biggest miss. He hit some very clutch kicks during the rise up to and run of our AFC championships. The Bills tried to replace him in 1988, they drafted a kicker 135th overall. That's modern 4th round. Kirk Roach. He's apparently on the College Football Hall of Fame ballot this year.
That's No Moon Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Ryan Lindell is very underappreciated He missed a couple big kicks that cost them games. 2004 v. Pittsburgh Monday Night v. Cleveland come to mind.
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Element115 said: Steve Christie was better IMO. 100% Christie. He makes that kick Norwood missed. I think kicking is much easier now. Christie was money. SH is good in his own right though.
That's No Moon Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: No love for Nick Mike-Mayer? He was part of "Chuck Knox' Super Bowl team" no? 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: 100% Christie. He makes that kick Norwood missed. I think kicking is much easier now. Christie was money. SH is good in his own right though. I don't know that it's easier. I just think the players are better. Field conditions are better and the number of kickers kicking indoors helps, but we saw 3 54 yard FGs last night like it was nothing. That would not have happened in the Norwood era from anyone. Some guys could make them, Morten Andersen for example, but it was rare.
row_33 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: He was part of "Chuck Knox' Super Bowl team" no? I don't know that it's easier. I just think the players are better. Field conditions are better and the number of kickers kicking indoors helps, but we saw 3 54 yard FGs last night like it was nothing. That would not have happened in the Norwood era from anyone. Some guys could make them, Morten Andersen for example, but it was rare. a recent "science of kicking" has clearly developed and the conditions on the field are pristine (mostly) so it is more automatic, to the point that the NFL had to change the rules. Mike-Mayer (not brought over in the quote) missed a late FG for the Bills and as he got home a fan ran over and punched him for costing him the point spread wager that day
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