SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wonder why they wouldn’t want him to have to talk to the media though - your guess is a good as mine.. putting on tin foil hat. He's been cleared for weeks removing tin foil hat 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Because the headache it would give him could put him back into the protocol? thats a good one 9 minutes ago, nucci said: question from 30 different reporters....."how do you feel"? Q # 2 what took so long to clear Q # 3 will you retire if you get another one 2
chris heff Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Is he gonna wear a different helmet? Yes, the league gave him permission to wear Antonio Brown’s old helmet. 11 1
JoPar_v2 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 He’s in stage 5 still. I think they evaluate him after he’s done some full contact practice stuff and then give final clearance if everything’s all good. Excited to get him out there finally. 1
quinnearlysghost88 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Color me pessimistic. He’s a center. This will happen again. We need to shore up that position beyond Morse. One or two more concussions and he’s calling it quits. Edited August 26, 2019 by quinnearlysghost88 3 1
Patrick Duffy Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Good.I expected him to be ready by week 1 anyways. Hopefully he won't have his bell rung anymore this season.
Lurker Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 "excuses him from media" Huh? Too bad they can't all be in protocol then...
YoloinOhio Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lurker said: "excuses him from media" Huh? Too bad they can't all be in protocol then... * Belichick rams head against the wall and enters protocol * Edited August 26, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 3 2
Malazan Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lurker said: "excuses him from media" Huh? Too bad they can't all be in protocol then... Quick, someone give baker mayfield a concussion
Mark Vader Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/focus-on-safety/protecting-players/nfl-return-to-participation-protocol/ " Step Five: Full Football Activity/Clearance After the player-patient has established his ability to participate in non-contact football activity including team meetings, conditioning and non-contact practice without recurrence of signs and symptoms and his neurocognitive testing is back to baseline, the team physician may clear him for full football activity involving contact. Once cleared by the team physician, the player-patient may participate in all aspects of practice. If the player-patient tolerates full participation practice and contact without signs or symptoms and the team physician concludes that the player-patient’s concussion has resolved, he may clear the player-patient to return to full participation. For the avoidance of doubt, if a player cannot participate in practice or full contact with other players due to the time of year and/or rules imposed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, simulated contact activity will suffice to satisfy this step. Upon clearance by the team physician, the player must be examined by the INC assigned to his Club. The INC must be provided a copy of all relevant reports and tests, including the Sideline and Booth UNC reports, the Booth ATC Spotter report and team injury reports, and have access to video of the injury, where applicable, and the player-patient’s neurocognitive tests and interpretations. If the INC confirms the team physician’s conclusion that the player-patient’s concussion has resolved, the player-patient is considered cleared and may participate in his Club’s next game or practice. We have clearance, Clarence. 1 1 1
MR8 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Tracking well for him to play week 1... The writing was on the wall after week 1 of preseason that their goal was to have him ready by week 1 of the regular season and they didn't care at all about Preseason. Something that stuck with me a bit was Knox saying that when he had his injury the trainers intentionally took it slower and longer with him during his recovery. He said he had never had a hamstring injury of any kind and the trainers told him they were going to work slower with him on in to make sure there was no recurrence down the road. When I heard that it really struck me because I feel like in professional sports trainers and coaches pound the table about getting a guy back "As soon as he's ready" which is just coach speak for "as soon as possible, and he mans up to play." But as the league has changed, and frankly the Bills have changed with their new sports science approach, I am wondering if they are intentionally taking longer with players and injury recovery time tables to try and minimize flair ups and additional injuries. Maybe Knox wasn't the only one they decided to keep out longer to prevent further exacerbating the injury... maybe Morse was tracking better than we all thought, but they held him in each phase just a bit longer, because frankly they didn't care if he played in preseason or not. While chemistry with the line and Allen is important, getting him to 100% is WAY more important. SO once he showed symptoms of a concussion, the decision was essentially made "We're taking all preseason to manage this". I don't hate the approach... As a fan I want to see everyone on the field, but when you look at the average athlete's recovery time from injuries, and the rate of how quickly those injuries then reoccur, maybe there is something to lengthening the process for rehabbing and doing it right rather than doing is quick. It may not be "best for the team" in that your top guys aren't out there, but it's best for the player, and long run ideally best for your team because the player is less likely to re-injure themselves and be back off the field again. 2
eball Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) @MR8 your theory makes perfect sense during TC and preseason. Once you hit regular season, however, I think all of that goes out the door. Edited August 26, 2019 by eball 2
BuffaloMatt Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 He needs to borrow Kelso's old Great Gazoo helmet. 1 1
DefenseWins Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Frankly, I'm happy that they held him out of useless preseason games. Why risk your investment in him on stupid preseason games that don't mean squat. Look at all the players across the league who have gone down with season ending injuries already. The Bills have been very fortunate and want to keep it that way. It's the smart thing to do. In the meantime sitting him has given them the opportunity to try out various combinations of other players all along the line for when injuries will occur during the regular season. SMART! Edited August 26, 2019 by DefenseWins mispelling
Saxum Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Wonder why they wouldn’t want him to have to talk to the media though - Talking to media can cause concussions.
Boca BIlls Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: So out of protocol? Everyone should have known he was going to be kept in until the start of the season. This isn't news anymore.
Augie Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I think has been in a spot where he could be cleared for quite some time. It almost looks like they are intentionally not taking him out of the protocol. This seems like he is completely recovered. Yeah, I think he’s been “fine” for a while, and this was just an abundance of caution. Unfortunately, I don’t know if we can ever call him completely recovered, as he’s probably going to be more susceptible for the rest of career....which I hope and pray is a very long one. Stay well Mitch!
Augie Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Everyone should have known he was going to be kept in until the start of the season. This isn't news anymore. Don’t you think we should play him ALL of the 4th preseason game to shake the rust off??? Get him some reps! Get his timing back, you know! ? 1
Mr. WEO Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, thebandit27 said: https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/focus-on-safety/protecting-players/nfl-return-to-participation-protocol/ " Step Five: Full Football Activity/Clearance After the player-patient has established his ability to participate in non-contact football activity including team meetings, conditioning and non-contact practice without recurrence of signs and symptoms and his neurocognitive testing is back to baseline, the team physician may clear him for full football activity involving contact. Once cleared by the team physician, the player-patient may participate in all aspects of practice. If the player-patient tolerates full participation practice and contact without signs or symptoms and the team physician concludes that the player-patient’s concussion has resolved, he may clear the player-patient to return to full participation. For the avoidance of doubt, if a player cannot participate in practice or full contact with other players due to the time of year and/or rules imposed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, simulated contact activity will suffice to satisfy this step. Upon clearance by the team physician, the player must be examined by the INC assigned to his Club. The INC must be provided a copy of all relevant reports and tests, including the Sideline and Booth UNC reports, the Booth ATC Spotter report and team injury reports, and have access to video of the injury, where applicable, and the player-patient’s neurocognitive tests and interpretations. If the INC confirms the team physician’s conclusion that the player-patient’s concussion has resolved, the player-patient is considered cleared and may participate in his Club’s next game or practice. So, essentially it's Mitch saying: "yeah, I'm good".
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