Buffalo Boy Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Anyone remember what a terrible pick Edmunds was last year? Remember how he sucked as he missed all those tackles and we shouldn’t have started him as a rookie? Rookies, high first round picks still have work to do and things to learn. FACT 3
Niagara Dude Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He has struggled to get off blocks throughout the preseason. The D around him has been good but to me he shouldn't be starting. I'm nervous about this pick. It looks like a bust pick, rather than grab a WR or TE to help out young QB they go defensive side of the ball and reach for undersized guy. Edited August 25, 2019 by Niagara Dude changed 1
BuffAlone Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Niagara Dude said: It is a bust pick, rather than grab a WR or TE to help out young QB they go defensive side of the ball and reach for undersized guy. a bust pick? after 3 preseason games? Good Lord...what is wrong with you people?? 1
Alaska Darin Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 You know what's valuable about preseason football games? Guys not getting injured. There isn't one other thing that should be taken as gospel.
BuffAlone Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Anyone remember what a terrible pick Edmunds was last year? Remember how he sucked as he missed all those tackles and we shouldn’t have started him as a rookie? Rookies, high first round picks still have work to do and things to learn. FACT a 1st rd WR gets a 3 year grace period. nobody else tho. people make me laugh with nonsense that he's a bust. I can't even say Shaq has been a bust. disappointment maybe, not a bust. jmo 1
Logic Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: It looks like a bust pick, rather than grab a WR or TE to help out young QB they go defensive side of the ball and reach for undersized guy. 1 2 1
Pbomb Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 I knew it was just a matter of time for a thread like this, dude hasn’t even played a single down yet 1
K-9 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bad Things said: We're doomed again! DOOMED!!!
Pbomb Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Not bust but a reach yes Reach? Every mock and rankings I seen had him as top ten, we should have took dk instead right
Green Lightning Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Agree with OP. I expected Aaron Donald immediately. Donald sacks the QB every snap, right? 1
Nextmanup Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, Nester said: He has never even played an NFL game yet. This thread is stupid. It's stupid? You might disagree with the premise, but why would it be "stupid?" You mean because it offers an opinion that might be detrimental to the team? It's bizarre how the haters come out in these threads and viciously attack the OP for daring to suggest something that might be detrimental to the team. There is a huge cult/follower mentality around this place. As someone who values critical, independent thinking, it's scary as hell. 2
Meatloaf63 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Nextmanup said: It's stupid? You might disagree with the premise, but why would it be "stupid?" You mean because it offers an opinion that might be detrimental to the team? It's bizarre how the haters come out in these threads and viciously attack the OP for daring to suggest something that might be detrimental to the team. There is a huge cult/follower mentality around this place. As someone who values critical, independent thinking, it's scary as hell. It’s stupid because he’s a rookie who hasn’t played a single game where we were game planing to stop an opposition. There is no way to come to any educated conclusion. So yes, it’s stupid... 2 1
TPS Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Yeah, reminds me of how awful Edmunds a year ago. Two R1 busts in a row Beane!
ComradeKayAdams Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 54 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I don't know what his responsibilities are each play, but what I see is a player that is tough to move but lacks the hands to disengage from blocks. Honestly to me Oliver may be best suited as a NT, which is what Houston ultimately had him doing and was criticized for it. McDermott may use Oliver the same way. He's very difficult to move even at his size. You are the only person on the planet who is thinking this. Everyone else on the planet believes his skill set at the NFL level is optimally utilized as a 3 technique 4-3 DT.
Da webster guy Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 If an interior D lineman is doubled his job is to hold his ground and slide in the direction of the play on a run, or contain/occupy a passing lane to disrupt timing. Once in awhile they can split and penetrate but this isn't college ball, they're the best in the world. Don't worry about big Ed yet. He's got a long way to go before he's going to be a star, but he sure looks like he has great instincts, power and hustle to me.
billsbackto81 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, GreggTX said: The OP is correct that Oliver hasn't performed nearly as well as some seem to think. He's a rookie and he has a long way to go yet. He must greatly improve the use of his hands to be effective. I support this pick, but of course I wish he were ready now. Just leave him in there and let him gain more experience and pray he becomes elite. Was watching the Jets last night and Q. Williams has looked beastly. I think Oliver will do just fine but the Jets picked the right DT. He is a plug and play talent in any scheme. Oliver has shown flashes and once he's really let loose he may shine. I've seen him in the backfield a few times and I've seen him whiff on some plays as well. We really need another pass rusher opposite Jerry. Murphy is underwhelming and Shaq is not a pass rusher. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He has struggled to get off blocks throughout the preseason. The D around him has been good but to me he shouldn't be starting. I'm nervous about this pick. The only thing more shocking than this bad take is that one other person hit the like button on it. 2 1 1
njbuff Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bust no. Just not going to impact like we thought. How the hell do you know what kind of impact he may or may not make? He hasn’t played one REAL snap yet.
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