PromoTheRobot Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Just keep in mind that the Texans can ask for the moon and stars, but if no one gives it to them, then what? And don't forget Clowney's say in this. He can control what team he goes to.
BillsfaninSB Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: what was his interest in Antonio brown? We don’t know how serious he was about AB. Im sure he contemplates a lot of acquisitions big and small.
That's No Moon Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, billieve420 said: If Dolphin are in on Clowney and Tunsil is available. It would cost Dawkins at a minimum not including potential draft picks for both teams. People talking about guys like Zay Jones being viable compensation is crazy. If the Dolphins trade Tunsil to Houston knowing that they can't re-sign Clowney until the off-season they are morons. IMO that's the biggest hold-up in this situation, the difference in Clowney's actual value as a football player, and what is he worth to another team to acquire when you factor in the massive risk involved in that he can walk and you end up with nothing. If he could be re-signed to a multi-year extension immediately, ergo, teams would be given permission to talk to his agent and work everything out in advance, you'd be correct, but this isn't that situation. Zay Jones isn't ample compensation, not even close. But to Houston, if Clowney is really going to sit he adds no value to your football team and they have immediate needs at multiple positions. The longer he sits out the fewer games his acquiring team will be guaranteed to have him on the field which depresses his value even more. After the trade deadline he has no value at all to Houston apart from the 3rd round comp pick they MIGHT get (again, assuming he truly is going to pull a Leveon Bell maneuver).
billieve420 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Mat68 said: Zay and a first or second. If I am Houston I am laughing at that offer. Give me Dawkins with a first or second and now the Bills are in the conversation. Not someone like Zay who has underperformed. Shady, over 30 yr old rb, who plays at a devalued position where you can find decent players post cutdown day.
babulator Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Can we give them Murphy & Yeldon, and /save game ? ?
That's No Moon Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, billieve420 said: If I am Houston I am laughing at that offer. Give me Dawkins with a first or second and now the Bills are in the conversation. Not someone like Zay who has underperformed. Shady, over 30 yr old rb, who plays at a devalued position where you can find decent players post cutdown day. And if I'm Buffalo I say have a nice day because I'm not giving you that for a rental and neither is anyone else. Which is why the trade hasn't happened yet. if anyone offered Houston anywhere NEAR that package they'd have leapt on it like a hungry mountain lion. Edited August 26, 2019 by That's No Moon 1
NoSaint Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: We don’t know how serious he was about AB. Im sure he contemplates a lot of acquisitions big and small. He considers them but just wouldn’t actually pull the trigger?
Sig1Hunter Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, billieve420 said: If I am Houston I am laughing at that offer. Give me Dawkins with a first or second and now the Bills are in the conversation. Not someone like Zay who has underperformed. Shady, over 30 yr old rb, who plays at a devalued position where you can find decent players post cutdown day. If I’m the Bills I’m laughing at your counter offer, and I’m out. Good luck with the Dolphins! 1
TheJauronClap Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: It just doesn’t seem like it’s Beanes Standard operating procedure to swing for the fences for a blue chip player by giving up significant assets. I don’t see it happening. What are significant assets to you i keep seeing shady(last year not here next year)zay(people here want him gone) and shaq lawson(last year of contract). with the pick being a 2nd or 3rd. If clowney walks we get a third. When your young qb is on a rookie deal you load up welcome to the NFL
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You're right. Tunsil might be more attractive to the Texans. But don't forget Clowney has a say in where he goes. (If he doesn't like a trade, he won't sign his franchise tender.) Maybe he's fine playing for his next contract with a crap team like the Dolphins. Or maybe he'd rather play with one of the top defenses in the league. Clowney has some leverage here. Hmm. Let's see: spend a year in beautiful South Florida, or spend a year playing in an extension of Appalachia aka WNY? Decisions, decisions <sarcasm> Edited August 26, 2019 by Cornette's Commentary
That's No Moon Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Hmm. Let's see: spend a year in beautiful South Florida, or spend a year playing in an extension of Appalachia aka WNY? Decisions, decisions <sarcasm> Hmmm, spending your contract year on a pretty good D line where you'd get minimal double teams and pad your numbers or spend it on a team where you will be the focus of every blocking scheme every week. 2
DBilz2500 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: So does that put us right in the mix or essentially rule us out?
Aussie Joe Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Is this a backtrack or covering all bases? 1
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, DBilz2500 said: So does that put us right in the mix or essentially rule us out? Rules us out completely. This means he'd want to go to one of the following: Chargers, Chiefs, Saints, Eagles, Patriots, Rams.
Inigo Montoya Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, That's No Moon said: Hmmm, spending your contract year on a pretty good D line where you'd get minimal double teams and pad your numbers or spend it on a team where you will be the focus of every blocking scheme every week. A offense can't double Star, Oliver, and Clowney. I mean, not unless they want to give Hughes a free release into the backfield every snap... 1
YoloinOhio Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, DBilz2500 said: So does that put us right in the mix or essentially rule us out? I think it explains his disinterest in Miami. Could also pertain to Bills, but not as sure about that one
RiotAct Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, DBilz2500 said: So does that put us right in the mix or essentially rule us out? puts us in the mix. Duh.
Mat68 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, billieve420 said: If I am Houston I am laughing at that offer. Give me Dawkins with a first or second and now the Bills are in the conversation. Not someone like Zay who has underperformed. Shady, over 30 yr old rb, who plays at a devalued position where you can find decent players post cutdown day. Your getting what Texans assume would be a top 10 pick from a 6-10 franchise. A wr that would be better than everyone they have behind Hopkins and Fuller. Not a terrible offer for a guy who is not playing and coming back in 2020
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