Big Turk Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 10 of 26 for 72 yards in a 13-12 loss to TB... While i know he has looked better than Allen, let's not forget that QBs have bad games... Allen didn't play great last night but he played better than Mayfield. 2 2
BillsDude Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 It’s the first time I’ve seen Baker act human. Was starting to get worried there.
CSBill Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 I hope the Browns don't beat us out for the number one pick, we'll both need a QB again next draft. 3 1
Protocal69 Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 You won’t find anyone talking about Baker poor game overall but I can guarantee you that everyone will talk about about Allen one bad pass/decision in the national media. Book it Im really starting to think its really personal with Allen 3
Green Lightning Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 11:52 AM, Protocal69 said: You won’t find anyone talking about Baker poor game overall but I can guarantee you that everyone will talk about about Allen one bad pass/decision in the national media. Book it Im really starting to think its really personal with Allen Expand Nah, it was a spectacularly stupid throw. The kind he was supposed to not do this year. That's all it is. 4 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) On 8/24/2019 at 11:52 AM, Protocal69 said: You won’t find anyone talking about Baker poor game overall but I can guarantee you that everyone will talk about about Allen one bad pass/decision in the national media. Book it Im really starting to think its really personal with Allen Expand Allen had about 3 bad passes. He looked pretty bad in his few attempts but I don't take much from it. I'm not sure why they went away from the pass heavy play calling to the run run pass play calling. Edited August 24, 2019 by Buffalo_Stampede
BobChalmers Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) On 8/24/2019 at 11:52 AM, Protocal69 said: You won’t find anyone talking about Baker poor game overall but I can guarantee you that everyone will talk about about Allen one bad pass/decision in the national media. Book it Im really starting to think its really personal with Allen Expand It is. A decent percentage of them won't ever forgive him for his teenage tweets. They'll never admit it, of course, but I am pretty confident that's the issue. Edited August 24, 2019 by BobChalmers 4 1 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 11:57 AM, BobChalmers said: It is. A decent percentage of them won't ever forgive him for his teenage tweets. They'll never admit it, of course, but I am pretty confident that's the issue. Expand No one cares about that stuff. Media wants to be right. 3 1
Royale with Cheese Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 11:52 AM, Protocal69 said: You won’t find anyone talking about Baker poor game overall but I can guarantee you that everyone will talk about about Allen one bad pass/decision in the national media. Book it Im really starting to think its really personal with Allen Expand Its pride. Many writers ripped Allen and don’t want to look foolish. So they exaggerate his bad games and not enough credit when he plays well. 6 1
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) He did, and lots of people are talking about it (at least locally), and a lot of national people really don’t like Mayfield (he cannot thank himself for that) - but he looked bad plenty of times last year too, especially against decent teams, despite all of the offseason hype that has surrounded him. He’s still a second year QB but he’s 24, and has played a lot of football, and needs to be much better. That was not a good defense he was playing, and he had a ton of time. He was simply inaccurate. Edited August 24, 2019 by YoloinOhio
SoCal Deek Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 11:57 AM, BobChalmers said: It is. A decent percentage of them won't ever forgive him for his teenage tweets. They'll never admit it, of course, but I am pretty confident that's the issue. Expand What the? I can tell you I’m of the ‘percentage’ that just thinks that was a REALLY dumb throw. This isn’t high school Josh. This is the NFL. 1
BobChalmers Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) On 8/24/2019 at 12:22 PM, SoCal Deek said: You won’t find anyone talking about Baker poor game overall but I can guarantee you that everyone will talk about about Allen one bad pass/decision in the national media. Book it What the? I can tell you I’m of the ‘percentage’ that just thinks that was a REALLY dumb throw. This isn’t high school Josh. This is the NFL. Expand Sorry - are you a national sports writer/TV talking head? There are a ton of them who won't show/mention anything he does right. I wasn't replying to a comment about that one throw - which was bad. Edited: I put the rest of what I was responding to for context. Hopefully that helps. Edited August 24, 2019 by BobChalmers
SoCal Deek Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 12:25 PM, BobChalmers said: Sorry - are you a national sports writer/TV talking head? There are a ton of them who won't show/mention anything he does right. Expand No Bob...just a football fan. Sorry that I’m unaware of the junior high drama you seem to wanna focus on. 1 2
BobChalmers Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) On 8/24/2019 at 12:28 PM, SoCal Deek said: No Bob...just a football fan. Sorry that I’m unaware of the junior high drama you seem to wanna focus on. Expand Again - responding to someone else's point about Allen getting a lot of unfair coverage overall. Which, BTW was ALSO the OP's point. Focusing on one (certainly) bad pass is a bit off topic. Edited August 24, 2019 by BobChalmers
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) On 8/24/2019 at 11:46 AM, CSBill said: I hope the Browns don't beat us out for the number one pick, we'll both need a QB again next draft. Expand Can’t we just send Sahlens hot dogs and Webers mustard to Miami in trade for the Other Josh? Edited August 24, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 12:29 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Can’t we just send Sahlens hot dogs and Webers mustard to Miami in trade for the Other Josh? Expand They would need to throw in some stone crab, that would be a huge overpay from Buffalo 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 12:31 PM, YoloinOhio said: They would need to throw in some stone crab, that would be a huge overpay from Buffalo Expand They’re going to have to settle for WNY fare. I’ll see if I can find some chocolate sponge candy in summer. 1
SoCal Deek Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 12:29 PM, BobChalmers said: Again - responding to someone else's point about Allen getting a lot of unfair coverage overall. Expand OK, but you have to admit that play was the ONE thing we didn’t want to see from Josh. In the heat of the game he needs to get that sort of stuff under control. If he can’t it’ll be his downfall. He’s so desperate to make plays that he lets his athleticism get the best of him. I’m guessing he’s always been the biggest, fastest kid on the playground. That’s not gonna get it done in the NFL. Think Josh....think! 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 12:01 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: No one cares about that stuff. Media wants to be right. Expand Nowadays, they want to be first. To hell with accuracy. 1
BobChalmers Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) On 8/24/2019 at 12:35 PM, SoCal Deek said: OK, but you have to admit that play was the ONE thing we didn’t want to see from Josh. In the heat of the game he needs to get that sort of stuff under control. If he can’t it’ll be his downfall. He’s so desperate to make plays that he lets his athleticism get the best of him. I’m guessing he’s always been the biggest, fastest kid on the playground. That’s not gonna get it done in the NFL. Think Josh....think! Expand True - but I'm less worried when it's a smart kid in a meaningless preseason game immediately admitting he screwed up. There's every reason to believe he'll work it out over time. Worst case, he becomes Brett Favre? ? Speaking of his media coverage and JA being a smart kid - has anyone EVER heard a media figure point out he had the top Wonderlic score (tied with a few others) at the combine? Dramatically better than all the other drafted QBs including the "genius" Josh Rosen. I had no idea until I looked them up. Not saying Wonderlic is all-important, but it seems a bit odd it's never mentioned. https://wonderlictestsample.com/2018-nfl-draft-class-wonderlic-test-scores/ Edited August 24, 2019 by BobChalmers
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