Rocky Landing Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: What is funny to me is that Mitch Trubiski has a MPH that is 55 and is considered a cannon. While Peterman was clocked at 53 and is considered weak armed. Going by MPH numbers from pro football weekly. The ball he will throw The cornerback he'll find Does he have a weak arm? Or just color blind? Peterman 1 1
Tcali Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 15 hours ago, ToGoGo said: He's obviously better than how he performed for us in the regular season. There is some backup QB talent there. Definitely some brains. But he has a severe case of the yips in the regular season. If I was Gruden, I would give Peterman clean-up duty in regular season blow-outs. Take some pressure off him. Get him in slowly. He was thrown into the fire too fast in Buffalo. when he passes it looks like he is throwing a meat loaf
Lurker Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Nope. Check the stats. Its not close Stats are for ******.... I've witnessed many QBs worse than NP and I don't need stats to tell me who they are.
Captain Hindsight Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: It's not that he needs to be babied. He performed above-average in preseason. If he can replicate this in the regular season, you have a capable backup QB. A capable backup QB is very important. It's not "babying him" but managing an asset to get the most of out it. I don't get how some people can't grasp that It is babying him. A third year pro needs to get some snaps in blowouts to boost his confidence? Cmon man. Its his 3rd year! and he needs to be built up? WHY??? Give that spot to someone that can do the job. You know the leading rusher for most teams in the preseason gets cut right? Maybe they should just give him carries in blowouts to boost his confidence since he performed so well in the preseason. Manage your assets ? 40 minutes ago, Lurker said: Stats are for ******.... I've witnessed many QBs worse than NP and I don't need stats to tell me who they are. Name 5
Rocky Landing Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 15 hours ago, ToGoGo said: He's obviously better than how he performed for us in the regular season. There is some backup QB talent there. Definitely some brains. But he has a severe case of the yips in the regular season. If I was Gruden, I would give Peterman clean-up duty in regular season blow-outs. Take some pressure off him. Get him in slowly. He was thrown into the fire too fast in Buffalo. I'm going to disagree with you here. Not about the "yips," or whatever. But, about everything else. Peterman wasn't "thrown into the fire." At all. He started nine weeks into the season. He was game-planned to be the starter in that game. Nine weeks into the season, as the designated starter, there can be no excuse. And, he crapped the bed spectacularly. Allen, on the other hand, was thrown into the fire, in the first week of the regular season, after Peterman, again the designated starter, once again crapped the bed vs. the Ravens. If you want to call nine weeks into the season as the designated starter being "thrown into the fire," there's certainly no excuse a year, and two training camps into the system. If I was Gruden, I wouldn't waste my time holding this guy's hand to "take pressure off him," or "get him in slowly" three years into his NFL career. 2
Phil The Thrill Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 18 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, he sucks. No mental gymnastics to convince anyone that he is better than who he is. He is the worst that’s ever played. Some, random preseason performance isn’t going to change the facts. Not quite. Nate is going to be a backup QB in the NFL for many years. 3 hours ago, Lurker said: Stats are for ******.... I've witnessed many QBs worse than NP and I don't need stats to tell me who they are. Agreed. Anyone who says Nate is the worst ever has a huge bias
Kirby Jackson Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Not quite. Nate is going to be a backup QB in the NFL for many years. Agreed. Anyone who says Nate is the worst ever has a huge bias Agree to disagree, the numbers supporting it have been presented. Feel free to look them up or dispute it but he is 356 of 356 qualifying QBs in QB rating and INT percentage. He’s playing in an era where passing records are being destroyed. There is no bias. In fact, I’d say anyone that believes he “will be a backup in the NFL for many years” are the ones with the bias. Nothing that he has done supports that.
Lurker Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Name 5 Just on the Bills (let alone looking around the rest of the league): Joe Dufek, Ed Rutkowski, Bill Munson, Mike Taliaferro, Dan Darragh, Brian McClure, Willie Totten...
Rocky Landing Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Lurker said: Just on the Bills (let alone looking around the rest of the league): Joe Dufek, Ed Rutkowski, Bill Munson, Mike Taliaferro, Dan Darragh, Brian McClure, Willie Totten... Oh really? You have a lot of keen recollections of Joe Dufek's five starts from 1984, do you? And, I'm sure you remember saying to yourself, "ya know, that Ed Rutkowski just doesn't pass the eyeball test," back in 1968? Or, the scrubby back-up Bill Munson, who never actually started a game back in the late 70s? I'm sure you had your eyes glued on every snap he made. (Far better stats than Peterman, btw. Of course, all of the nobodies you googled had better stats than Peterman.) Seriously, I hate this sort of dishonest crap. (Perfect avatar, btw.) 2
GreggTX Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 Quick! Trade for him! We need him back! Just kidding.
RyanC883 Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 3:52 PM, Captain Hindsight said: It is babying him. A third year pro needs to get some snaps in blowouts to boost his confidence? Cmon man. Its his 3rd year! and he needs to be built up? WHY??? Give that spot to someone that can do the job. You know the leading rusher for most teams in the preseason gets cut right? Maybe they should just give him carries in blowouts to boost his confidence since he performed so well in the preseason. Manage your assets ? Name 5 Name the leading rushers who have been cut? Also, QB way more valuable than RB. You manage the QB position different than others. Seems like NFL coaches agree with me on this one
Prickly Pete Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Peterman is in the rear view mirror, if he somehow manages to be a marginal backup, I still won't care.
Boca BIlls Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 11:27 PM, ColeB said: I only caught the last couple of minutes. He led them down the field for the winning FG. He looked a little shaky but had a clutch throw to get them in range and had 2 TD passes earlier. LOL! Will Gruden also be fooled? Peterman shows you every week why preseason is absolutely meaningless. For some reason the bad players shine.
billsredneck1 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 yep, it'll be nate leading da raidas against chad kelly's colts in the playoffs. place your wagers!
Livinginthepast Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Of course Peterman did great, its the preseason with scrubs on D. He's Tom Brady out there when he plays in the practice squad quality games! 1
Lurker Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) On 8/24/2019 at 3:20 AM, Rocky Landing said: Oh really? You have a lot of keen recollections of Joe Dufek's five starts from 1984, do you? And, I'm sure you remember saying to yourself, "ya know, that Ed Rutkowski just doesn't pass the eyeball test," back in 1968? Or, the scrubby back-up Bill Munson, who never actually started a game back in the late 70s? I'm sure you had your eyes glued on every snap he made. (Far better stats than Peterman, btw. Of course, all of the nobodies you googled had better stats than Peterman.) Seriously, I hate this sort of dishonest crap. (Perfect avatar, btw.) As is yours, for the rocks in your head. I saw every one of those guys play and sadly had tix through many of those years... Edited August 25, 2019 by Lurker
Rocky Landing Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, Lurker said: As is yours, for the rocks in your head. I saw every one of those guys play and sadly had tix through many of those years... Oh, yeah. I'm sure you remember the ONE GAME Brian McClure played in 1987 like it was yesterday, and can draw an honest comparison. Go ahead and double down. It doesn't make you any more believable.
Lurker Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Oh, yeah. I'm sure you remember the ONE GAME Brian McClure played in 1987 like it was yesterday, and can draw an honest comparison. Go ahead and double down. It doesn't make you any more believable. LOL! Good one rockhead. The strike/replacement year was very memorable (sadly). Each week, you just shook your head and thought "this can't get any worse" And then it did. Anyway, got to click that upper right-hand corner and a few drop down boxes now. C ya...
K-9 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 7:37 PM, Lurker said: Just on the Bills (let alone looking around the rest of the league): Joe Dufek, Ed Rutkowski, Bill Munson, Mike Taliaferro, Dan Darragh, Brian McClure, Willie Totten... Ed Rutkowski? Really? He was the fifth “disaster” QB in ‘68 when our first four QBs were lost to injuries. He was never even listed as a QB for the Bills until that disastrous ‘68 season. He hadn’t played QB since his sophomore year at ND. He was mostly a receiver, RB, and return specialist for the Bills. He even played at DB when asked. To use Rutkowski as an example to bolster your argument that we’ve had worse QBs than Peterman just isn’t credible. 1
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