RiotAct Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Dean said: While I hate to defend someone on the Pats*, it sounds like he owns the home where the coke was found. No mention if he was in the home at the time, so I'm assuming he was not there. And since he also has a Foxborough residence, I'm guessing the argument will be, "it wasn't Patrick's coke". Actually a very plausible argument. If the alarm went off, then it can be argued whoever set off the alarm may have left it there. Of course, without more information this is pure speculation. But the details so far, don't look that bad for Chung. Too bad (a little Bills fan bias there.) I just went from midnight to six.
DCbillsfan Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, Roger Goodell said: The league plans to seriously look into this matter beginning in January. Maybe February after the Super Bowl?
stinky finger Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Half ? That’s a bold number ??♂️ Mind numbing
StHustle Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, CLTbills said: yikes. that isn't a simple marijuana deal. That's looking at some serious time... career-ending time. Way off. He wasn't even arrested for it so it was a small amount. He won't get any time and his career will continue.
stinky finger Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 37 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: The first sign of compassion on the board... and it was meant in jest. My brothers, Patriots are humans too. He's a dumbass who seems content screwing himself and his team. Bed made, lay down
Dat Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 To whom it may concern, The NFL has decided to reinstate Josh Gordon Patrick Chung . insert patriot name here 1 2
Comebackkid Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 If you want to hang out, you've gotta take her out, cocaine If you want to get down, get down on the ground, cocaine She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie, Cocaine If you got that lose, you want to kick them blues, cocaine When your day is done, and you want to ride on cocaine
YoloinOhio Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Just now, Dat said: To whom it may concern, The NFL has decided to reinstate Josh Gordon Patrick Chung . insert patriot name here I figured Gordon was the one who set off the house alarm after he heard about the pre-party spread 1
Mr. WEO Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, JohnC said: Something is off here. The alarm goes off and the police respond to the house. Was the house vacant? How did they get in? Were the doors and window locked? What was so suspicious about this situation that made them enter the house without permission? The police respond to alarms all the time. What they usually do after a cursory outside check is notify the owners, not enter the premises. Just because he owns the home doesn't mean that you can presume that the drugs are his. Does anyone else use the house? Something is off here. I wouldn't be surprised that after his attorney gets involved this case will be dismissed. Chung may have a bigger problem with the league than he does with the legal authorities. I agree. If he wasn't home, do they have probable cause to search whatever they want in the home? They were responding to an alarm, not a tip.
GoBills808 Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Up to 7 years for any amount? Remind me not to party in New Hampshire 1
JohnC Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I agree. If he wasn't home, do they have probable cause to search whatever they want in the home? They were responding to an alarm, not a tip. Unless there are more facts I would say no. Was there an open door or a window open that would indicate that someone surreptitiously entered? Did they hear any noise from the inside? It's not unusual for the police to respond to alarms. They have the ability to use their data base to call the owner of the property. If they made contact they would ask the owner for permission to enter or wait for the owner to arrive. If there was a legal basis to enter the house (that's an open issue) they can only examine what is in plain view. They can't go through drawers or open cabinets. For the sake of an argument even if drugs were found in plain view and they had the authority to enter (questionable/debatable issue) you still can't assume that he was the owner of the drugs because others (friends, family etc) might have access to the residence. The Kraft saga collapsed because of improper police procedures. I see that same scenario playing out here. 1
4merper4mer Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I agree. If he wasn't home, do they have probable cause to search whatever they want in the home? They were responding to an alarm, not a tip. These dirty cops following up on alarms! How dare they? I remember the good old days when cops would go out after work and defend the world from champagne buying running backs.
GoBills808 Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, JohnC said: Unless there are more facts I would say no. Was there an open door or a window open that would indicate that someone surreptitiously entered? Did they hear any noise from the inside? It's not unusual for the police to respond to alarms. They have the ability to use their data base to call the owner of the property. If they made contact they would ask the owner for permission to enter or wait for the owner to arrive. If there was a legal basis to enter the house (that's an open issue) they can only examine what is in plain view. They can't go through drawers or open cabinets. For the sake of an argument even if drugs were found in plain view and they had the authority to enter (questionable/debatable issue) you still can't assume that he was the owner of the drugs because others (friends, family etc) might have access to the residence. The Kraft saga collapsed because of improper police procedures. I see that same scenario playing out here. Without a warrant I don't understand why they were able to enter in the first place. 1
YoloinOhio Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Just now, GoBills808 said: Without a warrant I don't understand why they were able to enter in the first place. The article indicates they had probable cause to enter ... must be more to the story
GoBills808 Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: The article indicates they had probable cause to enter ... must be more to the story He might be in a lot of trouble then
CardinalScotts Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Something is off here. The alarm goes off and the police respond to the house. Was the house vacant? How did they get in? Were the doors and window locked? What was so suspicious about this situation that made them enter the house without permission? The police respond to alarms all the time. What they usually do after a cursory outside check is notify the owners, not enter the premises. Just because he owns the home doesn't mean that you can presume that the drugs are his. Does anyone else use the house? Something is off here. I wouldn't be surprised that after his attorney gets involved this case will be dismissed. Chung may have a bigger problem with the league than he does with the legal authorities. at the VERY least Chung either has a cocaine problem or is a dealer....its not going away
YoloinOhio Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Belichick’s self-proclaimed favorite player of all-Time is Lawrence Taylor so guessing there won’t be any team discipline 1
JohnC Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Just now, GoBills808 said: Without a warrant I don't understand why they were able to enter in the first place. That's the issue. We simply don't have all the facts. If the police responded to an alarm at the residence and upon arrival they observed the door locks tampered with or a window open then that would certainly raise suspicions for the police. Could they enter at that point? Not necessarily yes or no. Is there some commotion in the house or not? Before going in after surrounding the house were they able to get a hold of the owner? Right now with the limited information I would say this was a questionable entry.
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