SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 US Space Command will launch this month, ahead of Trump's Space Force https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/20/space-force-launch-aug-29-vice-president-mike-pence-says/2061062001/ The U.S. Space Command officially starts Aug. 29, serving as the launching pad for the Space Force "The United States Space Force will ensure that our nation is prepared to defend our people, defend our interests, and to defend our values in the vast expanse of space and here on Earth with the technologies that will support our common defense for the vast reaches of outer space," A good idea or a waste of Taxpayers money? My company will make a pretty penny off of this venture. 1
Tiberius Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: US Space Command will launch this month, ahead of Trump's Space Force https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/20/space-force-launch-aug-29-vice-president-mike-pence-says/2061062001/ The U.S. Space Command officially starts Aug. 29, serving as the launching pad for the Space Force "The United States Space Force will ensure that our nation is prepared to defend our people, defend our interests, and to defend our values in the vast expanse of space and here on Earth with the technologies that will support our common defense for the vast reaches of outer space," A good idea or a waste of Taxpayers money? My company will make a pretty penny off of this venture. It's always good to be forward looking. I used to be something can't of special to look up at the sky and spot a satellite floating by, but now I look up and you can't help but see a couple of them almost all the time. A significant amount of our economy and society now depend on space vehicles so it's best to be prepared. 1
Wacka Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) They have had a Space Force for a while. Just part of the Air Force. My old neighbors son is a career Airman and he had been stationed around the country working on many things. The military side of Cape Kennedy is very busy. He said his son has to jet around the country a lot. Edited August 22, 2019 by Wacka 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 22, 2019 Author Posted August 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, Wacka said: They have had a Space Force doer a while. Just part of the Air Force. My old neighbors son is a career Airman and he had been stationed around the country working on many things. The military side of Cape Kennedy is very busy. He said his son has to jet around the country a lot. DARPA has been doing many things for a while. We just can't be told what they do. Do we need more redundancy? 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It's always good to be forward looking. I used to be something can't of special to look up at the sky and spot a satellite floating by, but now I look up and you can't help but see a couple of them almost all the time. A significant amount of our economy and society now depend on space vehicles so it's best to be prepared. We need a Waste Management in space to collect all the outdated trash. My company is working on spacecraft to extend the life of vehicles already up there and or give them a nudge to burn up in reentry or out towards the sun.
Tiberius Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: DARPA has been doing many things for a while. We just can't be told what they do. Do we need more redundancy? We need a Waste Management in space to collect all the outdated trash. My company is working on spacecraft to extend the life of vehicles already up there and or give them a nudge to burn up in reentry or out towards the sun. That's pretty neat. Environmentalism in space.
row_33 Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Biden will promise a US astronaut landing on the sun while he is POTUS. 3
3rdnlng Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: It's always good to be forward looking. I used to be something can't of special to look up at the sky and spot a satellite floating by, but now I look up and you can't help but see a couple of them almost all the time. A significant amount of our economy and society now depend on space vehicles so it's best to be prepared. Is that Klingon? Maybe this can be a whole new career for you as a translator. 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Biden will promise a US astronaut landing on the sun while he is POTUS. Did he forget that they already did that during the Obama administration? 1
B-Man Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 First launch for Space Force planned in Florida on Thursday. . 2
B-Man Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 BIG SPACE NEWS: Via email from the Space Council: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 6, 2020 CONTACT: 202-456-1336 William.L.Boyington@who.eop.gov Administration Statement on Executive Order on Encouraging International Support for the Recovery and Use of Space Resources WASHINGTON – Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order on Encouraging International Support for the Recovery and Use of Space Resources. This order addresses U.S. policy regarding the recovery and use of resources in outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies. Dr. Scott Pace, Deputy Assistant to the President and Executive Secretary of the National Space Council, released the following statement on behalf of the Administration: “As America prepares to return humans to the Moon and journey on to Mars, this Executive Order establishes U.S. policy toward the recovery and use of space resources, such as water and certain minerals, in order to encourage the commercial development of space.” Dr. Pace continued: “The order reaffirms U.S. support for the 1967 Outer Space Treaty while continuing to reject the 1979 Moon Agreement, which only 17 of the 95 Member States of the United Nations Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space have ratified in the past four decades. The order further clarifies that the United States does not view outer space as a ‘global commons,’ and it reinforces the 2015 decision by Congress that Americans should have the right to engage in the commercial exploration, recovery, and use of resources in outer space.” Additional highlights: · The President has directed the Secretary of State to object to any attempt to treat the 1979 Moon Agreement as representing customary international law. This Agreement represents a failed attempt at constraining free enterprise and it does not represent the bright future of a growing space economy. · The Secretary of State is further directed to lead the U.S. Government’s effort to encourage international support for the recovery and use of outer space resources. To this end, the United States will seek to negotiate joint statements, bilateral and multi-lateral agreements and other instruments regarding safe and sustainable use of space resources with like-minded states. · As the United States continues towards its goal of placing the first woman and next man on the Moon by 2024 and landing the first human on Mars, the Administration will seek every opportunity to work with commercial, international, and non-government organizations to ensure that American ideals of transparency, partnership, free and fair trade, and private enterprise are part of humanity’s expansion in space. See below for the text of the Executive Order and the attached corresponding fact sheet: EXECUTIVE ORDER – – – – – – – ENCOURAGING INTERNATIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE RECOVERY AND USE OF SPACE RESOURCES By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including title IV of the U.S. Commercial Space Launch Competitiveness Act (Public Law 114-90), it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Policy. Space Policy Directive-1 of December 11, 2017 (Reinvigorating America’s Human Space Exploration Program), provides that commercial partners will participate in an “innovative and sustainable program” headed by the United States to “lead the return of humans to the Moon for long-term exploration and utilization, followed by human missions to Mars and other destinations.” Successful long-term exploration and scientific discovery of the Moon, Mars, and other celestial bodies will require partnership with commercial entities to recover and use resources, including water and certain minerals, in outer space. Uncertainty regarding the right to recover and use space resources, including the extension of the right to commercial recovery and use of lunar resources, however, has discouraged some commercial entities from participating in this enterprise. Questions as to whether the 1979 Agreement Governing the Activities of States on the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies (the “Moon Agreement”) establishes the legal framework for nation states concerning the recovery and use of space resources have deepened this uncertainty, particularly because the United States has neither signed nor ratified the Moon Agreement. In fact, only 18 countries have ratified the Moon Agreement, including just 17 of the 95 Member States of the United Nations Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space. Moreover, differences between the Moon Agreement and the 1967 Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies — which the United States and 108 other countries have joined — also contribute to uncertainty regarding the right to recover and use space resources. Americans should have the right to engage in commercial exploration, recovery, and use of resources in outer space, consistent with applicable law. Outer space is a legally and physically unique domain of human activity, and the United States does not view it as a global commons. Accordingly, it shall be the policy of the United States to encourage international support for the public and private recovery and use of resources in outer space, consistent with applicable law. Sec. 2. The Moon Agreement. The United States is not a party to the Moon Agreement. Further, the United States does not consider the Moon Agreement to be an effective or necessary instrument to guide nation states regarding the promotion of commercial participation in the long-term exploration, scientific discovery, and use of the Moon, Mars, or other celestial bodies. Accordingly, the Secretary of State shall object to any attempt by any other state or international organization to treat the Moon Agreement as reflecting or otherwise expressing customary international law. Sec. 3. Encouraging International Support for the Recovery and Use of Space Resources. The Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Transportation, the Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and the head of any other executive department or agency the Secretary of State determines to be appropriate, shall take all appropriate actions to encourage international support for the public and private recovery and use of resources in outer space, consistent with the policy set forth in section 1 of this order. In carrying out this section, the Secretary of State shall seek to negotiate joint statements and bilateral and multilateral arrangements with foreign states regarding safe and sustainable operations for the public and private recovery and use of space resources. Sec. 4. Report on Efforts to Encourage International Support for the Recovery and Use of Space Resources. No later than 180 days after the date of this order, the Secretary of State shall report to the President, through the Chair of the National Space Council and the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, regarding activities carried out under section 3 of this order. Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals. (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person. DONALD J. TRUMP THE WHITE HOUSE, April 6, 2020. ___ Comment: This is evidence that non-Covid-19 initiatives are still moving in the White House. This is a very important one that has been in the works for quite a while, and it’s an excellent leadership/management sign that it’s happening. And I think it’s very worthwhile. . 3
3rdnlng Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Joe Miner said: Is that a real phone number? I know how to find out.
KRC Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 7 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: I know how to find out. Google?
Tiberius Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 18 hours ago, B-Man said: BIG SPACE NEWS: Via email from the Space Council: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 6, 2020 CONTACT: 202-456-1336 William.L.Boyington@who.eop.gov Administration Statement on Executive Order on Encouraging International Support for the Recovery and Use of Space Resources WASHINGTON – Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order on Encouraging International Support for the Recovery and Use of Space Resources. This order addresses U.S. policy regarding the recovery and use of resources in outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies. Dr. Scott Pace, Deputy Assistant to the President and Executive Secretary of the National Space Council, released the following statement on behalf of the Administration: Oh, he is encouraging cooperation by the international community? How about encouraging international support to save the planet we live on? Nope
KRC Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Hint: Do I hook that to one of those antique modems to get to Google? I no longer have my CompuServe account. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 This seemed like the better thread for this: 2
3rdnlng Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, KRC said: Do I hook that to one of those antique modems to get to Google? I no longer have my CompuServe account. Try the new "smart" Commodore 64. If all else fails and the connections are not compatible you might try using the ***** phone to call that number and see how good it is.
KRC Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 42 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Try the new "smart" Commodore 64. If all else fails and the connections are not compatible you might try using the ***** phone to call that number and see how good it is. You mean, like talk to someone on the phone? You can do that?
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