eball Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 WEO, you're an odd duck. I have no idea why you find it so important to belittle an article talking about how a veteran is helping a rookie. No, Lee Smith isn't an all-pro TE but he has stuck around in the NFL this long for a reason, and if you really think there's nothing he can provide to Sweeney I don't know what to say. Just a bizarre take. The article, and Smith's actions, are an affirmation of the culture McD and Beane are trying to create. 4
elroy16 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 12:51 AM, Mr. WEO said: Look, the kid has been exposed to blocking and taught to block. Lee Smith might show him a few pointers, and that's nice. I want this kid to be a pass catcher, not some 90's style TE galloot Expand Lol, this is so weird. Do you think they don't practice catching the ball and running routes in addition to blocking? Did the article say that Sweeny only gets his instructions from Smith? Quote “Once you get labeled and once people, especially in the media, decide that you’re this or you’re that then that just kind of becomes what’s written about,” Smith said. “But I promise you one thing right now: Tommy Sweeney is not just a blocking tight end. Maybe I am but he’s not. The kid can run, he gets in and out of his breaks - I mean he’s not making plays against the threes out here he’s playing plays against the ones. That’s our one defense and they were second in the league, if I’m not mistaken. He’s a good football player in both aspects of the game and he works his butt off.” Expand Does that help? 1
TheFunPolice Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Mr. Croom isn't going anywhere. He's running the HHH plan. 1
ROCBillsBeliever Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 1:08 PM, Mr. WEO said: I was referring to the one who refers to himself in the third person. Expand WEO, you are a hoot! ??? 1
Freddie's Dead Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Lee Smith is a mensch. Not a big play guy, just reliable, salt-of-the-earth type dude. You rock, Lee Smith.
Mr. WEO Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 2:06 PM, elroy16 said: Lol, this is so weird. Do you think they don't practice catching the ball and running routes in addition to blocking? Did the article say that Sweeny only gets his instructions from Smith? Does that help? Expand No I'm totally on board with Sweeney--more so than Knox. The quote you provided bolsters my point. The kid has been coached.
blacklabel Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Sweeney is really growing on me. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the 53.
Mr. WEO Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 1:12 PM, eball said: WEO, you're an odd duck. I have no idea why you find it so important to belittle an article talking about how a veteran is helping a rookie. No, Lee Smith isn't an all-pro TE but he has stuck around in the NFL this long for a reason, and if you really think there's nothing he can provide to Sweeney I don't know what to say. Just a bizarre take. The article, and Smith's actions, are an affirmation of the culture McD and Beane are trying to create. Expand I know everything is reduced by some here as the FO's "culture", but I see this as another in a long line of issues with the Bills and the TE position. In February, the Bills had Croom and Clay on the roster. Since then these men have appeared as TE hopefuls: Kroft Jake Fisher (lol) Knox Sweeney Smith Moral Stephens Mik'Quan Deane Nate Becker Keith Towbridge That's 11 guys---and all before training camp. Bringing back a backup TE you let go 5 years ago doesn't seem like a solid process. "Feel good" stories are nice in July and August. Not so much by December. If Lee's main value to the process is teaching blocking, then make him TE coach.
eball Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 @Mr. WEO yeah, not really the point. Smith is a respected veteran and if he's imparting some of his NFL wisdom to a rookie it's very difficult to cast a negative spin upon that scenario. The article isn't about who will play TE for the Bills or how much trouble they've had with injuries/poor talent.
Mr. WEO Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 3:36 PM, eball said: @Mr. WEO yeah, not really the point. Smith is a respected veteran and if he's imparting some of his NFL wisdom to a rookie it's very difficult to cast a negative spin upon that scenario. The article isn't about who will play TE for the Bills or how much trouble they've had with injuries/poor talent. Expand No but my comment was. Smith is a nice guy, but bringing him back at this point in his career seems like typical Bills FO flailing at the TE spot.
FLFan Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 4:04 PM, Mr. WEO said: No but my comment was. Smith is a nice guy, but bringing him back at this point in his career seems like typical Bills FO flailing at the TE spot. Expand Actually, what it seems like is that they have some very specific formations in mind that will utilize his unique skill set.
Mr. WEO Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) On 8/15/2019 at 4:12 PM, FLFan said: Actually, what it seems like is that they have some very specific formations in mind that will utilize his unique skill set. Expand Running plays and max protect if the O-line turns out to be sketchy. Edited August 15, 2019 by Mr. WEO
Doc Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 1:08 PM, Mr. WEO said: 4.4 million guaranteed to block a few snaps a game. I was referring to the one who refers to himself in the third person. Expand He's signed for 3 years. But I'm sure you knew that. On 8/15/2019 at 4:04 PM, Mr. WEO said: No but my comment was. Smith is a nice guy, but bringing him back at this point in his career seems like typical Bills FO flailing at the TE spot. Expand They drafted 2. His job is to be a blocker and he's one of the best in the game. It's not a big deal.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 If anyone can catch a Josh Allen 70 mph football it’s Sweeney. When you watch a few of his games he makes some spectacular catches. If he was just more athletic he would be a pro bowl TE. His hands and blocking will keep him employed in the NFL for a long time. He is also a amazing route runner and just has that ability to get open on a blitz. Im hoping to see Sweeney and Knox on a lot of 2 TE formations
Mr. WEO Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 4:42 PM, Doc said: He's signed for 3 years. But I'm sure you knew that. They drafted 2. His job is to be a blocker and he's one of the best in the game. It's not a big deal. Expand 4.4 million gaa-roan-teed, doc. He won't be around to collect all 9. Capiche now?
Doc Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) On 8/15/2019 at 8:47 PM, Mr. WEO said: 4.4 million gaa-roan-teed, doc. He won't be around to collect all 9. Capiche now? Expand He'll probably be there for 2 years and will make about $3.4M/year. If he can help as a blocker and teach the younger guys stuff, it's money well-spent and hardly a bank-breaker considering salaries these days. Edited August 15, 2019 by Doc 1
3rdand12 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 2:21 AM, Mr. WEO said: He would be the most expensive position coach in history I’m on record saying Sweeney will be the real rookie TE value Expand You may be onto something. Felt he was great pick with big upside potential. The two drafted TEs take us into the future i will be delighted On 8/15/2019 at 9:21 PM, Doc said: He'll probably be there for 2 years and will make about $3.4M/year. If he can help as a blocker and teach the younger guys stuff, it's money well-spent and hardly a bank-breaker considering salaries these days. Expand he will earn his money. Good investment imho Kroft on the other Hand ... 1
HerdMenatlity1 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 10:51 PM, Sunshower said: I like Sweeney. I think he is more than a blocking TE. Not saying he’ll be an All Pro but I think he is better than where he was drafted. Expand Me too. I was stoked ro see him there when we picked him.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 9:21 PM, Doc said: He'll probably be there for 2 years and will make about $3.4M/year. If he can help as a blocker and teach the younger guys stuff, it's money well-spent and hardly a bank-breaker considering salaries these days. Expand ...wasn't that Tolbert's role as well?....teaching and LR stability?.......almost think it may be the same for DiMarco( STILL not sure of his role), but with an AARP backfield, he's hardly the "vet presence"...LOL....
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