Bills TC Day 14 (8/13) - joint practice with Panthers in Spartanburg, SC

[sunshynman]

6 hours ago, KCNC said:

I'll be there tomorrow.

see ya there!

 

5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I just tried googling it and couldn't find anything.

 

Any specific rules you're looking for?  

 

I would still take your son regardless.  You get a much more intimate view of everything happening.  I went to the Bills/Browns one probably 15 years ago.

You could hear the chatter, the calls at the line, the thuds from the pads are louder....it's a really cool experience.

Open to public, bring your son.

 

Info in link Does and don'ts

https://www.panthers.com/schedule/training-camp-central/

[Kelly the Dog]

4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Yeah, but he wears gloves.

Never say this in public, like on a fansite or anything, because it will quickly become a tell for defenders, but if you watch closely, he wears gloves on running plays so he can't hold on, and takes them off on passing plays when it may be coming to him so he can.

[Bevis]

Sounds like the Panthers Offense was moving the ball on the Bills D easily according to NYUP.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

11 minutes ago, Bevis said:

Sounds like the Panthers Offense was moving the ball on the Bills D easily according to NYUP.

yeah, you have to be real concerned about that. could be a sign of bad things to come this season, no?

 

Edited August 13, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[sunshynman]

3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

yeah, you have to be real concerned about that. could be a sign of bad things to come this season, no?

 

Way different when its game time.  D will be better than last year!

[Alphadawg7]

57 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I'm not drafting any Bills or Panthers outside McCaffrey...the rest should be available or at least they will be in my leagues. Possibly Allen or Newton as QB2 real late. 

 

I have first pick and am takin EMC in one draft that’s a 1 player keeper league.  Keeper is OBJ.

 

And not taking all those guys, but they are guys I think are great later values 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

3 minutes ago, sunshynman said:

Way different when its game time.  D will be better than last year!

 

I forgot to add this

 

 

 

 

[eball]

6 minutes ago, Bevis said:

Sounds like the Panthers Offense was moving the ball on the Bills D easily according to NYUP.

 

Meh.  The author admitted he focused more on the Bills' offense in the paragraph right above that, and then when he wrote about the Panthers' O he described only one play -- a short pass to McCaffrey who made Milano miss.  McCaffrey does that to every LB in the league.  Also, the author used "seemed to" twice -- he wasn't even really watching that action.  Wallace picked off Cam in the end zone.  Take from it what you want, but it wasn't some scathing indictment of the Bills' D.

 

 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

Bills-Panthers joint practice: How did Josh Allen do against Carolina defense? (5 observations)

 

2. Levi Wallace picks off Cam Newton

Bills sophomore cornerback Levi Wallace did something in practice Tuesday that he couldn’t do a single time in a game last season: intercept a pass thrown by another team’s quarterback.

 

Making the moment even sweeter, it was against the 2015 NFL Most Valuable Player Cam Newton.

 

“It’s big. I expect myself to make those plays as much as I can,” Wallace said. “(Now I just have) to keep it up. Now it’s all about consistency. I want to go out here and do the same thing tomorrow.”

 

The interception came against Newton as he was trying to fit a pass into a crowded pocket in the back of the end zone. Panthers tight end Greg Olsen was in the vicinity of the throw but Wallace came away with it.

 

3. Overall the Panthers offense seemed to be more in sync

As the two offenses worked in team drills the Panthers were consistently moving down the field more effectively and at a quicker pace.

 

Newton seemed to be making some things happen against a Bills secondary and linebacker unit that’s hoping to be one of the most stout groups in the NFL in 2019.

 

On one play Newton went short to running back Christian McCaffery, who was being covered by Bills linebacker Matt Milano.

 

The speedy back blazed past Milano and into the second level of the defense. Milano has looked a step slow a few times during camp and in the Bills’ preseason win over the Colts in his limited playing time. He’s still working his way back from a season-ending broken leg last season.

Edited August 13, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[syhuang]

36 minutes ago, Bevis said:

Sounds like the Panthers Offense was moving the ball on the Bills D easily according to NYUP.

 

It looks like there are up and down for both offenses. For example, by looking at the first four tweets below, people would think Panthers dominate in the drill:

 

 

 

 

But he later replied to a post saying Panthers were dominating as following:

 

 

 

 

 

As for Panthers' offense, there are lots of reports about their 'up', but there are also 'downs' like below:

 

 

 

 

Edited August 13, 2019 by syhuang

[JESSEFEFFER]

Cover1 with a nice recap of the practice with Greg Tompsett and guest Joe Marino of Locked on Bills.  They do a good job of presenting their thoughts considering that they probably do not have any formal communications training.  

 

Cover1 with Greg and Joe

[Chandler#81]

36 minutes ago, Bevis said:

Sounds like the Panthers Offense was moving the ball on the Bills D easily according to NYUP.

Fairly certain we have a recently removed poster reincarnated. Verifying..

[BillsFan4]

 

sorry if this was already posted

[eball]

1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Cover1 with a nice recap of the practice with Greg Tompsett and guest Joe Marino of Locked on Bills.  They do a good job of presenting their thoughts considering that they probably do not have any formal communications training.  

 

Cover1 with Greg and Joe

 

Quick recap:  they really only watched the offense because of the way the fields are set up.  Josh looked great and they loved his decisiveness with the ball.  Beasley's immediate separation is amazing.  Ray Ray showed good hands.  Andre Roberts "will have a big role" in the offense -- can run all routes.  OL talk -- Bates got some snaps at C, might be able to make himself valuable being able to play any position on the line.  Morse looks very close to a return.

[whatdrought]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

Fairly certain we have a recently removed poster reincarnated. Verifying..

 

Ooh! Who is it??

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Some random observations from attending my first ever TC:

 

--Not sure how Wofford's facilities/feel stacks up to St.JF for the fans, but I was duly impressed with the overall "niceness." The only negative I have to gripe about is that finding/locating the correct access points, parking to the field and TC grounds, left much to be desired--signage was poor and workers while nice and exhibiting Southern charm, were not great at giving further directions, jmo. I teamed up with another solo traveling Bills fan who was in a similar boat, and eventually we made our way to a lot that had Shuttle access, and that ended up being the best solution--so I got to the grounds about 15 min. after practices had already started.

 

--By virtue of being sheep following the crowd in front of us in order to find where we needed to go (signage people!), my new travel companion and I wound up queuing in a line at the very state of the art fieldhouse by the shuttle drop off, and wouldn't you know it, there was a Bills photog taking everyone's picture with Billy Buffalo, and welcoming us to camp--very nice. Next to Billy Buffalo, was a Bills alumnus signing autographs...I'm ashamed to admit neither of us could figure out who it was at first, and neither could a fan behind us who'd just flown in from Seattle (he said for business, and it just worked out for him to come to camp also)--then I caught sight of the glossy printouts he was signing of himself for the fans, and it was none other than Nate Clements--another nice touch brought to you by One Buffalo! I thanked him for his Bills service after collecting my freebie signed swag, and off we went to the field level.    

 

--Bills fans were "segregated" to a viewing area at the left side end zones of the two practice fields, while the Panthers fans were treated to better sideline viewing--however, this may have inadvertently backfired on the organizers, as it became painfully obvious that Bills fans outnumbered the locals, and wide swaths of green viewing lawn were visible in the Panthers section. Great job at getting out there, southern Bills Mafia (As well as a not insignificant number of NYers, from convo snippets I overheard along the way). It was incredibly gratifying to see all of the Bills fans out in such force away from home, and I think it even caught the Bills FO off guard some? More on that later. In terms of the viewing, it was hit or miss for those of us without media or VIP passes--simply a function of being in the end zone areas 5-6 fan lines deep from the fencing, and inexplicably having a large cart of some kind parked directly behind the near field goal post, taking away all middle views of the action, if you weren't catty corner enough where you stood. We moved around enough to make it work to see here and there.    

 

--Yes it was brutally hot, but the BIlls fans got the better end of this bargain, because all of the shade-casting trees outside of the VIP tents, were located at the backs of the Bills fans standing/sitting in the endzone areas, while the Panthers fans baked in the open sun, from what I could see. In truth, I can't give you guys as solid of a rundown of the action on the field today, as I was processing just being at camp and all that that entails--I enjoyed soaking up the experience and talked with a lot of Bills fans around me, so my attention wasn't always where it needed to be, or my view was compromised, but I still thoroughly enjoyed it all. 

 

--The first units I saw in action was the Bills starting D going against Cam Newton on the near field going towards the EZ, so the Bills section was the best one here--by my unofficial count, Newton was 1/3 on these redzone passing drills against our secondary, but that was the only time I saw Cam all day, as I migrated fairly quickly to the far side field where the Bills O was operating. Josh completed about half of the passes I saw him throw, but I counted at least 2 drops, one by Sweeney and one by Smoky, that should've been caught, imho. Josh also ran a few designed run plays that I was glad to see--Dabs may not want to bottle him up in the pocket after all?

 

--The "reception" line greeters for the Bills today were Smoky Brown (he didn't walk the whole fence line, but he did make himself available near the VIP tent fencing area), Josh Allen, House $$ and Reid Ferguson. Coach McD walked the whole line, high-fiving all who stretched their hands out far enough (I gave a weak sauce effort and was thus not rewarded, as I was trying to film on my phone at the same time) and he apologized for not stopping to sign autographs, he didn't have time and couldn't make exceptions. Next Coach Dabs darted here and there like a triggerfish deciding whether or not to dive into the crevasse of the coral reef, and decided to take the high road instead, quite literally--he walked back away from the fan fence as quickly as he'd come, but he did smile and wave a bit like the Queen, so there's that. Allen to his credit, ran the entire gauntlet of the fan fence, and literally signed for every single kid there under the age of 10, but I saw that he wouldn't sign for any adults, no exceptions. I do respect that--he had limited time, and there were a ton of fans there, but he still made the most of it by making sure that each kid there got to interact with him, take selfies, etc. When Josh was right by where I was standing, I blurted out that my daughter was born on the same day as his Leap heard round the world over Barr, and that got me a verbal acknowledgment, but still no dice as to the Allen jersey I was holding out to be signed. Oh well, I guess next time I will have to make sure to bring my kiddos along as Allen autograph insurance!! 

 

Besides getting to share the aforementioned details of my baby's birth story with Josh Allen, lol, the highlight of my day was Brandon Beane. Guys, this GM is the real deal, no other way to say it. First, by this time it was already 30-45 minutes or so after practice had wrapped up, and the man stood there and signed for everyone, young and old, without appearing to be in any kind of a hurry, and was cheerful to one and all. He ended up signing my Allen jersey (it's a double XL and I've lost a few lbs this year, so can't wear it anymore anyway) and also posed for a selfie. I thanked him for organizing the Bills coming down south for these sessions, as it gave those of us living near enough a chance to see the Bills up close too. He responded by being appreciative for all of the fan support there locally and said they were glad it worked out the way it did. He got a laugh when one of the fans yelled out, "Thanks for drafting Ed," to which he replied, "Just thankful he was still there when we got him." I also heard several fans saying thanks for bringing hope back to Buffalo, which seemed to leave an impression on him also. Class act, all around.      

 

A great day for this Bills fan!!!

 

**I'm working on getting my pics and some vids together in a way I can post without violating the size limits...that will follow.    

 

 

[Malazan]

8 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Every once in a while someone says something on this board that literally makes my jaw drop. 

 

This was one of those moments for me. 

 

given the poster...are you surprised?

8 hours ago, Ittakestime said:

 

Get out of here with that crap.

 

UB started training camp on the 31st of July and has their first game August 29th.  I'm sure most programs are the same.

 

Over 6 weeks of practice, 4 preseason games is overkill.  To add a scrimmage on top of that is just dumb.

 

As soon as week 1 hits, everything changes anyways.

 

This isn't life or death.

 

The patriots and Belichick did the same exact thing with Detroit, but what does BB know about football?

[WickedGame]

When Josh Allen throws a bad pass, or especially if he’s picked off, it’s taken by most national media — and some fans — as evidence JA just doesn’t have what it takes to be an NFL starter. 

 

When Cam Newton throws interceptions, here’s what they say in The Charlotte Observer:

 

”Newton was intercepted again in a goal-line situation, this time by the Bills’ Levi Wallace. While it seems like Newton, back from shoulder surgery, has been picked off a lot this training camp, that could be him testing where he can fit passes into windows, as opposed to simply making mistakes. Trial-and-error are part of the preseason process, particularly for a veteran quarterback secure as a starter.”

 

Link

 

[Jpsredemption]

The reports out of camp are so vague even by Sal. Makes you wonder how good this team really looks as a whole. 

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

sorry if this was already posted

Dammit. I love this team. ?Please win.