coloradobillsfan Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 7 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: As the line goes in the numerous war movies ... “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant" No matter what the US would have been drawn into the conflict one way or another. I'm still curious where this quote originated. I don't believe it was Yamamoto, and it wasn't even mentioned in At Dawn We Slept
Nervous Guy Posted August 12, 2019 Author Posted August 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said: I'm still curious where this quote originated. I don't believe it was Yamamoto, and it wasn't even mentioned in At Dawn We Slept https://visitpearlharbor.org/man-who-planned-the-attacks/
coloradobillsfan Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Nervous Guy said: https://visitpearlharbor.org/man-who-planned-the-attacks/ But there are a lot of respected sources who say he never uttered nor wrote the words. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-2001-10-28-0110260564-story.html Edited August 12, 2019 by coloradobillsfan added source
DC Tom Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 7 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: As the line goes in the numerous war movies ... “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant" No matter what the US would have been drawn into the conflict one way or another. The US was already in the conflict. Panay, Greer, Kearny, Reuben James, Niblack, Northland. The "Neutrality Patrols" and the occupation of Iceland.
Gugny Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Those are specific to the atomic bombings, not the entire war. They're not idiots, you are. The atomic bombs were what I was focusing on. I didn't make that clear.
DC Tom Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Gugny said: The atomic bombs were what I was focusing on. I didn't make that clear. In a thread about victory in the entire war, you focused on two bombings? Yeah, my labelling of you as an idiot is really coming to a middling.
Gugny Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: In a thread about victory in the entire war, you focused on two bombings? Yeah, my labelling of you as an idiot is really coming to a middling. First of all, flattery will get you everywhere. B. Anything I read about this holiday directly referenced the atomic bombings leading to Japan surrendering ... hence my focus.
DC Tom Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: First of all, flattery will get you everywhere. B. Anything I read about this holiday directly referenced the atomic bombings leading to Japan surrendering ... hence my focus. "My focus was wring because I read stupid *****." Keep trying.
Gugny Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, DC Tom said: "My focus was wring because I read stupid *****." Keep trying. I misunderstood. No biggie. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wring. Dipshit.
DC Tom Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: I misunderstood. No biggie. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wring. Dipshit. Good. Self-knowledge is the key to true wisdom, grasshopper. Only in admitting your stupidity can you let it go. The True Idiot embraces his idiocy, and in doing so becomes...well, a bigger idiot, really. But it's good to excel an something.
Gugny Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: Good. Self-knowledge is the key to true wisdom, grasshopper. Only in admitting your stupidity can you let it go. The True Idiot embraces his idiocy, and in doing so becomes...well, a bigger idiot, really. But it's good to excel an something. Thanks, Mr. Miyagi. I'll keep all of this in mind.
Marv's Neighbor Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Nervous Guy said: Agreed, but the strange thing is RI is the only state to do it....and let's face it most people don't actually "celebrate" holidays such as these in the manner they were intended to. And that's shame on us. Does that mean good seats at the parade?
Nanker Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 22 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: Well you are kinda zombie’ ish so maybe they are confused by this. However, on a serious note, your clarification is really important. I now think of my deceased father-in-law who saw front line combat in Korea. He did not lose his life there but he certainly lost part of his being. He was a very stoic man who clearly was impacted by what he saw and did while there. However, he went to his grave refusing to allow anyone to think that it was an issue in his life. We who have freedom should never fail to celebrate those who are now, have before and certainly those who died while in service to this country. My father-in-law was on one of those in the Pacific. He’s 94 now and still doesn’t talk much about it. His ship picked up downed flyboys. 1
Saxum Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 8:03 AM, Nervous Guy said: I live in CT but work in RI so I have today off!!! Rhode Island is the only state left that celebrates this holiday. I think it's kind of weird holiday to hang onto, I suspect it's just a "beach day" the state did not want to get rid of, but I'm not complaining. https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/victory-day I suspect it helps on car sales and provides needed revenue to newspapers. Isn't that what holidays are for? 1
DC Tom Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Nanker said: My father-in-law was on one of those in the Pacific. He’s 94 now and still doesn’t talk much about it. His ship picked up downed flyboys. Destroyer or sub?
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