Cripple Creek Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Augie said: Not even a Spork? Sporks are versatile. I could live with that I think. Do you have a napkin?
PlayoffsPlease Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: When josh was drafted I made Upside projections to Cutler ->Elway. I definitely thing he's cut from that mold. but he's still got a long way to go to get to Cutler level. Right now, he's probably closest to Josh Freeman. You really don't understand what you see on the field. 1 1 1
Augie Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Sporks are versatile. I could live with that I think. Do you have a napkin? Does a sleeve count? You can use your own, thank you....
Real McClappy Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 If Cutler had Josh's leadership and drive he still be playing for Denver or the Bears. 1
Happy Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 Orton or Cutler, no, I'm not ok with either. Elway or Favre, yes, I'm good with either. 1
Big Turk Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 21 hours ago, Ga boy said: Josh is looking a lot like Jay Cutler but our guy appears to have more leadership skills. I was always amazed that Jay could zip it all over the field with nothing to show for it. During his 2nd season, I'd like to see Josh look more like Brett Favre than Jay. Can he do it?? He doesn't really look anything like Cutler. Cutler didnt care and didnt try to get better. He was cool just going out there the way he was.
Aussie Joe Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 Pick 7, two second rounds, Cordy Glenn and passing on Mahomes, and in return the Bills get the next Jay Cutler? Yeah.. I’d be fine with it..
BullBuchanan Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 16 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Like Jay Cutler, but with more leadership skills... Uh...***** yes Isn't that just Brett Favre? He has the same passion and competitiveness Cutler was at least 3 tiers down from Favre. He was a good overall QB that sometimes played great, but that you could always count on to inevitably choke.
Boatdrinks Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 I’ll be okay regardless of how Josh Allen turns out. As for the Bills, ( and more precisely their GM and HC) they will most probably not be okay at all if Allen’s career is Cutleresque. One or both will be fired and the cycle of searching for a franchise QB will begin yet again. I don’t think Allen will be much like Cutler at all, or Tannehill as some have suggested. I think he’s already got a better chance to be a QB that wins games than Tannehill. Allen will have a pretty good defense to rely on, so we should see fairly quickly if he can lead an offense and do the necessary things to lift the talent around him up. 1
Bangarang Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 I would not be okay if he had the same production as Cutler. I can’t imagine why anyone would be.
Cripple Creek Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, Augie said: Does a sleeve count? You can use your own, thank you.... I don’t appreciate your tone. 1
Augie Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: I don’t appreciate your tone. Alright, you can use my sleeve......but you might want to ask where it’s been first.
zonabb Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 Brett Favre. That's waaaay to much of a leap. Jesus. Guy won MVPs, Super Bowl, threw for over 70,000 yards and 500 TDs. As much of a risk taker as he was, he more than made up for it in his ability to read defenses and be accurate. HIs career completion percentage was 62. His first season as s started in GB he was 64.1%. He was sub-60% 5 times in 19 seasons. Two were 59.9% and 59.3%. I'm sorry but I'd bet Allen will not finish his career with a >60% percentage, which is likely mean we'll be in a Tannehill situation... a medioce QB we'll hold onto for a few seasons too long and have to rebuild in 2022. It'll end Beane and McD's tenures. Just because you are a Bills fan doesn't mean past history and predictive analysis related to QBs doesn't apply in the case of your QB. Maybe, maybe he's the 5% outlier in the 95% certainty underlying most predictions. But that's a long shot to hang your hat on.
LeGOATski Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Cutler was at least 3 tiers down from Favre. He was a good overall QB that sometimes played great, but that you could always count on to inevitably choke. Right (insert smoking Jay Cutler meme here)
disco Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: I would not be okay if he had the same production as Cutler. I can’t imagine why anyone would be. Obviously I wouldn't be ok with the other aspects of Cutler that made him less than I think he perhaps could have been. However just on production...if he put up Jay Cutler numbers over a career it could be argued that would make him the most productive QB in Bills history. And sure I'm stretching that somewhat for reaction with Jim...but just for reference, the regular season career totals of two QBs below - one is Jim Kelly and one is Jay Cutler. Games Yards TD INT Rating 160 35,467 237 175 84.4% 153 35,133 227 160 85.3% 1
Bangarang Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, disco said: Obviously I wouldn't be ok with the other aspects of Cutler that made him less than I think he perhaps could have been. However just on production...if he put up Jay Cutler numbers over a career it could be argued that would make him the most productive QB in Bills history. And sure I'm stretching that somewhat for reaction with Jim...but just for reference, the regular season career totals of two QBs below - one is Jim Kelly and one is Jay Cutler. Games Yards TD INT Rating 160 35,467 237 175 84.4% 153 35,133 227 160 85.3% Come on man, you know that comparing modern QB stats to those of 20-30 years ago is dumb. 1
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