stony Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 I wanna know who he hired to paint his old helmet. The guy had one job and he screwed it up lol
mjt328 Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 Like I said back in the spring... Coaches/teams are almost always willing to give multiple chances to guys who with off-field issues - getting arrested for DUIs or drugs, beating-up their girlfriends/kids, etc. If the NFL doesn't issue a suspension, they have no problem putting these kinds of players on the field indefinitely. They know that regardless of how bad these offenses are, they will have little to no impact on the team's success. But once guys start doing stuff like this, you can forget it. Teams (at least the smart ones) know they can't succeed with these kind of distractions. They bring down morale and divide locker rooms. Pittsburgh had absolutely no problem dumping Antonio Brown, and you can tell that Oakland is already starting to regret picking him up. Just something to consider when you see (for example) Brandon Beane trading away Marcel Dareus for scraps. 1
MDH Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 That’s just crazy. It’s like he believes his WR skills are imbued to him through his helmet.
John from Riverside Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 Sometimes it is the trade/transaction that is not made Could you imagine giving up a huge portion of our new found salary cap to AB and this happen if he was with us?
Warcodered Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Holy ***** Secret drug compartment?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Holy ***** Who was it here that CASTIGATED Beane for not landing Brown? I wanna take a victory lap. 1 1
Warcodered Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Sometimes it is the trade/transaction that is not made Could you imagine giving up a huge portion of our new found salary cap to AB and this happen if he was with us? Talk about dodging a bullet.
JoeF Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Who was it here that CASTIGATED Beane for not landing Brown? I wanna take a victory lap. Beane is a wizard, a futurist, a soothsayer and a great GM. Love that man! 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Talk about dodging a bullet. Dodging a nuclear warhead... 1
Doc Brown Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Holy ***** K-mart. 400 Oak Street. Cincinnati, Ohio. 1
JoeF Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) Mort with the two word kill-shot @mortreport · 1m Oh boy Quote Tweet Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 8m And now this: Raiders’ WR Antonio Brown has told team officials that, unless he gets to wear his old helmet, he will not play football again, per league sources. And more.... Edited August 9, 2019 by JoeF
Warcodered Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Who was it here that CASTIGATED Beane for not landing Brown? I wanna take a victory lap. I mean I guess the idea was that with a good enough locker room/culture you could absorb a crazy player but I don't think a good enough one exists for this much crazy.
Chandler#81 Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 fwiw -and it’s totally nothing, I’m sad to see the helmet look of the past now be banned. I liked seeing Rodgers wearing that helmet as it had the look of Favre and Starr before him. These new ones just don’t have the same appeal. but I’m old..
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: I mean I guess the idea was that with a good enough locker room/culture you could absorb a crazy player but I don't think a good enough one exists for this much crazy. lol that would be a BAD idea.
JoeF Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 In better times....... https://www.raiders.com/video/antonio-brown-surprises-derek-carr-with-a-visit
17islongenough Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 It looks the Raiders do not want him. I think he can be got for a 7th rounder. We could steal him right now...
zonabb Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Like I said back in the spring... Coaches/teams are almost always willing to give multiple chances to guys who with off-field issues - getting arrested for DUIs or drugs, beating-up their girlfriends/kids, etc. If the NFL doesn't issue a suspension, they have no problem putting these kinds of players on the field indefinitely. They know that regardless of how bad these offenses are, they will have little to no impact on the team's success. But once guys start doing stuff like this, you can forget it. Teams (at least the smart ones) know they can't succeed with these kind of distractions. They bring down morale and divide locker rooms. Pittsburgh had absolutely no problem dumping Antonio Brown, and you can tell that Oakland is already starting to regret picking him up. Just something to consider when you see (for example) Brandon Beane trading away Marcel Dareus for scraps. But the guys on WGR55, lead by Schopp and White argue that culture, accountability, maturity and other qualitative measures are meaningless. Essentially, these guys believe there is zero negative impacts when players of this ilk act as they do. The issue with these dorks is they believe in binary quantitative evidence. In other words, they look at yards and catches and that, and only that, is a measure of the value of a player. They can be self-destructive off the field, destroy the lockerroom, and undermine the coach but none of that will impact the team or their own play because.... numbers. I am continually fascinated by the WGR55 people when I get a chance to listen. They seems to always focus on data and numbers, incorrectly in most cases, yet fail miserably in understanding that in all professions, and hockey and football are not immune, back co-workers can often have a deleterious impact on the organization. For some reason, they believe sports are immune. As soon as someone comes up with an analytical measure that quantifies the impact of these losers on a team, then maybe they'll believe in it. Let's maybe add some context here. You can't tell me that in cases where someone has to make a tough block or play to support a catch and run by Brown that less effort might be put into it because he's not someone a millionaire is going to stick his neck out for. That would impact, for example, yards after a catch in this on instance. That is a direct impact on the game due to bad behavior and I bet my next paycheck on it that it happens. The reason is, guys say they work harder for guys they love, who are committed to the team. So the inverse is true. In the end, I railed against these kinds of players before and am a major supported of McD and Beane and the way they are shaping this team. Emotional maturity, team-first, football IQ, hard working, and smart. You can teach and coach up the emotionally intelligent and smart players, you can't with the Browns and Dareuses of the world... the perpetually late, inattentive, divas who put themselves above the team. So I will thoroughly enjoy his lackluster season (he gave up on a much better QB) as much as I'll enjoy watching the Cowboys suck.
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