foreboding Posted August 5, 2019 Author Posted August 5, 2019 As long as he is on the wall, I feel like our team is turning a blind eye to something that transcends sports. Crazy that his name is up in lights and is celebrated in our stadium. According to this twitter though, he has a lot of getting even to do. So we have that to look forward to.
DC Tom Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 What? Why am I just finding out about this now? How come no one's ever mentioned this before??? 2
Gugny Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:16 PM, Bill from NYC said: How would you feel if he was only arrested for the burglary? Again, please understand that if I owned the team he would be taken down. Expand Honestly, I would likely NOT call for his name to be removed if there was no murder/trial. The burglary alone wouldn't tip the scales for me. 1
GunnerBill Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:06 PM, Jobot said: Also, OJ was found guilty in the Civil case. The stakes for a Civil case however don't include jail time, just a lot of money. Expand You can't be found guilty in a civil case. Just liable. They are two totally different legal concepts. 1
mrags Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 2:40 PM, foreboding said: I have been a Bills fan my entire life. As a little kid I remember watching the Electric Company and OJ. Like the rest of us, I was appalled when he was accused of a double murder. Disbelief and heartbroken first, later outraged. We have since learned that Johnny Cochran manipulated evidence, the scene of the crime and, masterfully, got him acquitted. There is almost no one who thinks that this POS is innocent. What I still fail to understand is why is this guy still on the wall? There is nothing about the man that brings any Bills fan any joy. He is an embarrassment, and more importantly, a horrible pariah. He is out enjoying life in Florida, posting on Twitter, golfing: this man who murdered his kid's mother in cold blood. He ripped her open with a knife and almost took her poor friend's head off, a man in the wrong place at the wrong time. The wounds on Goldman suggest he tried to fight back. Who gives a crap if he broke records, he does not represent my team or my home city. He is the antithesis to all that is good. We won nothing with the man, he is no hero to anyone's kids. I'm actually shocked Kim Pegula has allowed him to remain on the Wall of Fame. That wall should have people who also represent the city well? Is it just about stats?? I mean we are talking about a cold blooded killer, a big strong man who executed his own wife! He took his kids mother. He robbed them of her. I see no reason why he should be on that wall. Please Bills, let's expunge this dirtbag murderer from any public recognition. Please. Expand Except he’s not a murderer. He was found not guilty of murder. And his football history on the Buffalo bills has absolutely nothing to do with his personal life.
foreboding Posted August 5, 2019 Author Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:32 PM, mrags said: Except he’s not a murderer. He was found not guilty of murder. And his football history on the Buffalo bills has absolutely nothing to do with his personal life. Expand You believe that he was innocent?
Tisker A Tasker Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 Here is my simple diagram explaining my support for removing Nordberg from the wall:
Jerry Jabber Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) IMO, if the Pegula's decide to build a new stadium, I doubt Simpson's name goes back on their new wall of fame. Edited August 5, 2019 by Jerry Jabber 2
Reed83HOF Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:34 PM, Jerry Jabber said: IMO, if the Pegula's decide to build a new stadium, I doubt Simpson's name goes on the Wall of Fame at the new stadium. Expand That's the easiest way to do it... 1 1
mrags Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:32 PM, foreboding said: You believe that he was innocent? Expand I believe what the facts of the case are. He was found not guilty.
Jerry Jabber Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:39 PM, mrags said: I believe what the facts of the case are. He was found not guilty. Expand He was found liable in the civil case 1
DC Tom Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:16 PM, Bill from NYC said: Again, please understand that if I owned the team he would be taken down. Expand If I owned the team, I'd keep it up. And paint it black. Both for heightened awareness about domestic violence. I'd sooner try to do good with it than erase it from memory. On 8/5/2019 at 5:40 PM, Jerry Jabber said: He was found liable in the civil case Expand "Guilty" and "liable" are not the same thing. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 His name should be removed. Do it now, in the offseason, with as little mention or publicity as possible. Terry/Kim just need to have their Facilities team go up one morning and take it down, and leave it at that. 1
Jerry Jabber Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 Here's another reason why I think Simpson's name will not go on a new wall of fame: https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/05/21/buffalo-bills-senorise-perry-oj-simpson-jersey-number-32-not-retired-nfl/3759947002/
mrags Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:40 PM, Jerry Jabber said: He was found liable in the civil case Expand I’m sorry. Was he sentenced to prison for that?
DrDawkinstein Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:41 PM, DC Tom said: If I owned the team, I'd keep it up. And paint it black. Both for heightened awareness about domestic violence. I'd sooner try to do good with it than erase it from memory. Expand Fair enough point since your heart is in a good place. But I believe there are better ways to do what you want (raise awareness, actually make a difference, etc) without leaving his name up on the WoF. On 8/5/2019 at 5:44 PM, mrags said: I’m sorry. Was he sentenced to prison for that? Expand Just a heads up, you arent sounding as smart as you think you are with this point(?) you are trying to make. 1
mrags Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:45 PM, DrDawkinstein said: Fair enough point since your heart is in a good place. But I believe there are better ways to do what you want (raise awareness, actually make a difference, etc) without leaving his name up on the WoF. Just a heads up, you arent sounding as smart as you think you are with this point(?) you are trying to make. Expand Really? Because he was found not guilty in court. So I apparently am 100% correct on this. And anyone assuming he’s guilty is 100% incorrect.
Jobot Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) On 8/5/2019 at 5:41 PM, DC Tom said: "Guilty" and "liable" are not the same thing. Expand Call it what you want.. the Bills and NFL have no legal obligation to this criminal. IMO it is crazy that a major sports franchise would be afraid to claim this as their opinion or belief. Then again, I'm sure someone somewhere has identified a monetary loss/gain from the decision to publicize this. Edited August 5, 2019 by Jobot
Jerry Jabber Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 5:44 PM, mrags said: I’m sorry. Was he sentenced to prison for that? Expand No. It's a shame that 90% of the jury already had it in their mind that they were not going to find OJ "guilty" due to the LAPD being found "not guilty" in the Rodney King beating case. The judicial system failed Rodney King, so the jurors were going to do something about it. https://www.thewrap.com/oj-simpson-juror-not-guilty-verdict-was-payback-for-rodney-king/ On 8/5/2019 at 5:41 PM, DC Tom said: If I owned the team, I'd keep it up. And paint it black. Both for heightened awareness about domestic violence. I'd sooner try to do good with it than erase it from memory. "Guilty" and "liable" are not the same thing. Expand Here's a good explanation of "Guilty vs Liable." http://www.shakelaw.com/blog/civil-criminal/
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