Kentucky > Army Corps of Engineers: Bye bye Carp!

[Cripple Creek]

19 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Throw $2 million of nitrogen in the water a year.  Create a stinking stagnant dead zone for 2 miles.  Just like the old polluted days, nothing will get through, they will stay in Kentucky.

 

The other $100s millions wasted on biologists, etc... Keeping "job security" will go back to taxpayers.

 

Boom!  Problem solved... But what do these science guys do, clean water freaks do... They make the water cleaner every year... Even add oxygen, waterfalls all along the canals to get the water clean.  Sure I add bubbles in winter to keep ice forming... But a nitrogen dead zone, kill zone, would create a barrier miles away...

 

Yet... We waste 100s of millions to pay some high-priced pencil pushing biologist... So they can pay off their degree.

 

Such a simple solution.  Why wasn't this a propblem years ago... Because the waters were too damn polluted.

Sure, problem solved. Thousands out of work whilst (AAFM) you continued to be paid for your non work. You and your ilk who care only about themselves need a wake up call.

[ExiledInIllinois]

21 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Sure, problem solved. Thousands out of work whilst (AAFM) you continued to be paid for your non work. You and your ilk who care only about themselves need a wake up call.

^^^^^^The rubber and glue defense.^^^^^^

 

I do $10 million a month in business. 

 

Match that Mr.Fancy Dancy! THAT'S $800,000 for every day I work!

 

Bet that makes @BringBackFergy jealous.

 

EDIT: MAKE for the country.  NOT spend, like the other government employees do.

[Cripple Creek]

27 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

^^^^^^The rubber and glue defense.^^^^^^

 

I do $10 million a month in business. 

 

Match that Mr.Fancy Dancy! THAT'S $800,000 for every day I work!

 

Bet that makes @BringBackFergy jealous.

 

EDIT: MAKE for the country.  NOT spend, like the other government employees do.

Yes, your organ I zation moves product that lines the pockets of your billionaire cronies. Meanwhilst it turns rivers around, damns natural bodies of water, buries entire towns (some whilst still occupied) under hundreds of feet of water and invites invasive species to stay & make themselves at home. This whilst at the same time those same cronies are reinforcing our borders to keep human beings out of this great melting pot.

 

Shame on you.

[BringBackFergy]

46 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Yes, your organ I zation moves product that lines the pockets of your billionaire cronies. Meanwhilst it turns rivers around, damns natural bodies of water, buries entire towns (some whilst still occupied) under hundreds of feet of water and invites invasive species to stay & make themselves at home. This whilst at the same time those same cronies are reinforcing our borders to keep human beings out of this great melting pot.

 

Shame on you.

@ExiledInIllinois is a "one-percenter"?? It all makes sense now. Driving expensive, sporty vehicles, sending his kids to elite private schools, vacationing at his summer place in VT, buying the finest beer, growing award winning crops.  He's an elitist who can't seem to understand sometimes the easiest, backwoods solution (electrocuting those little critters) is the best solution.

[ExiledInIllinois]

19 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

@ExiledInIllinois is a "one-percenter"?? It all makes sense now. Driving expensive, sporty vehicles, sending his kids to elite private schools, vacationing at his summer place in VT, buying the finest beer, growing award winning crops.  He's an elitist who can't seem to understand sometimes the easiest, backwoods solution (electrocuting those little critters) is the best solution.

University of Iowa isn't "private."

 

/smh...

1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said:

Yes, your organ I zation moves product that lines the pockets of your billionaire cronies. Meanwhilst it turns rivers around, damns natural bodies of water, buries entire towns (some whilst still occupied) under hundreds of feet of water and invites invasive species to stay & make themselves at home. This whilst at the same time those same cronies are reinforcing our borders to keep human beings out of this great melting pot.

 

Shame on you.

Three letters:

 

TVA

 

(Tennessee Valley Authority)

 

Three more letters:

 

PTH

 

(Power To Hillbillies)

 

All brought to by and subsidized by the Industrial & Industrious Northern States.

 

Chew on that... They'd still be backwards and losing the Civil War with no internet & air conditioning if we weren't so benevolent.

 

Pfffft... A silly fish, that is tasty... And people get all hysterical!

[Cripple Creek]

1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

University of Iowa isn't "private."

 

/smh...

Three letters:

 

TVA

 

(Tennessee Valley Authority)

 

Three more letters:

 

PTH

 

(Power To Hillbillies)

 

All brought to by and subsidized by the Industrial & Industrious Northern States.

 

Chew on that... They'd still be backwards and losing the Civil War with no internet & air conditioning if we weren't so benevolent.

 

Pfffft... A silly fish, that is tasty... And people get all hysterical!

Thanks Polly Anna.

[ExiledInIllinois]

13 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Thanks Polly Anna.

I prefer: Mr.Sunshine. I am your sunshine...

 

 

[Cripple Creek]

14 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I prefer: Mr.Sunshine. I am your sunshine...

 

 

Is there a song that goes “I can rationalize anything that benefits me because I only care about me and the rest of you can go ***** yourselves” because that’s your theme song right there, Bubby.

[ExiledInIllinois]

15 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Is there a song that goes “I can rationalize anything that benefits me because I only care about me and the rest of you can go ***** yourselves” because that’s your theme song right there, Bubby.

Flood control, public health and sanitation ain't all about me.

 

 

[Cripple Creek]

34 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Flood control, public health and sanitation ain't something I concern myself with.

 

 

My god man, tell us something we don’t know.

Edited August 2, 2019 by Cripple Creek

[/dev/null]

I kinda feel bad for EII.  Must be a really yucky feeling when you realize you've been outsmarted by Kentucky.

[ExiledInIllinois]

28 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

I kinda feel bad for EII.  Must be a really yucky feeling when you realize you've been outsmarted by Kentucky.

LoL... Why?  There are no Asian carp up here.

 

NEWSFLASH: The whole debate is to stop them from spreading from Kentucky to the Lakes.  It's their problem down there... Better them then us.

 

It was the Redneck catfish farms down there where they first brought Asian carp in to clean the aquafarms during 1970s.  They escaped during the 1990s floods.  Kentucky needs to solve the own problems.

 

People are really misinformed.

 

Myself... It's all just a big old government boondoggle. They move they, they'll move.  Kentucky wants to shock, let them shock.

 

Since 2010 they have found 2.  Count them 2 Asian carp.  Both silver carp and both SHOCKED and FWIW, by the same government fisherman (I shi... You NOT, same guy).  Once in 2011 & once in 2018.  Both fish were studied and determined that they didn't spend much time up here... Months if best.  What did they do?  Take a helicopter here.  Of course they were planted. Can anybody say: "False Flag" = more $$$$$$$ funding.

 

They have been shocking up here for 15 years & they found two planted fish?  By the same guy.  That's stuff you don't hear in the "Carp are invading, sky is falling narrative."

 

This is BIG $$$ if they can keep this narrative going.

 

Good for Kentucky.  They made their mess, now clean it up.

Edited August 2, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois

[ExiledInIllinois]

 

Oh... The head of the eDNA tech at Notre Dame that sold his flawed tech to the Feds in 2009 when his Michigan funding was running out is now at Cornell.  I bet @BringBackFergy knows him!  After a decade of studying, they don't even use the technology that much... Too many real world vectors, false positives.  The last decade, all they do is shock and net.  But they can't find Asian carp up here! Because there is none up here.  They just shock the other fish and release.  They pulled 100,000 pounds out in 2011, no Asian carp.

 

Again... More power to the Rednecks... It's been 25 years and they are finally getting to shocking, cleaning up their mess they started.  It started down there in Arkansas, Kentucky back in the 1990s.

Edited August 2, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois

[SoTier]

9 hours ago, Cripple Creek said:

Yes, your organ I zation moves product that lines the pockets of your billionaire cronies. Meanwhilst it turns rivers around, damns natural bodies of water, buries entire towns (some whilst still occupied) under hundreds of feet of water and invites invasive species to stay & make themselves at home. This whilst at the same time those same cronies are reinforcing our borders to keep human beings out of this great melting pot.

 

Shame on you.

 

So, I take it you're an off-the-grid, back-to-nature type ... except ya gotta have your laptop and internet ...

 

FYI ... governments have been damming rivers and creeks for thousands of years to provide water for irrigation and power.  It's part of the price we pay for no longer being nomadic hunter gatherers clad in animal skins and dying by the time we're forty.

[mead107]

Who has a great recipe for carp? 

[SoTier]

3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

 

Oh... The head of the eDNA tech at Notre Dame that sold his flawed tech to the Feds in 2009 when his Michigan funding was running out is now at Cornell.  I bet @BringBackFergy knows him!  After a decade of studying, they don't even use the technology that much... Too many real world vectors, false positives.  The last decade, all they do is shock and net.  But they can't find Asian carp up here! Because there is none up here.  They just shock the other fish and release.  They pulled 100,000 pounds out in 2011, no Asian carp.

 

Again... More power to the Rednecks... It's been 25 years and they are finally getting to shocking, cleaning up their mess they started.  It started down there in Arkansas, Kentucky back in the 1990s.

 

Wasn't it some fish farmer who imported the Asian carp and his fish escaped during a flood or something like that?

[ExiledInIllinois]

20 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Wasn't it some fish farmer who imported the Asian carp and his fish escaped during a flood or something like that?

Yeah, in 1970s... The first were, with the blessing of the government.  Go figure.  Big Floods in 1993.  Arkansas ground zero.  Catfish farms.

 

Actually, interestingly... They tried to get the Asian carp to take off in Nile... In Egypt during late 1970s... As a food source.  No go, too polluted, etc...

 

They need clean water.  Big river flows to spawn...   As we started taking care of our waters better, they became unintended consequence.

 

Their presence is solely related to clean water.  I am all for clean water... But accept the consequences.  Life ain't fair and perfect.

 

If China wasn't a stinking ecological disaster, they'd be taking off in the big rivers there and treated as a food source.

[BringBackFergy]

2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah, in 1970s... The first were, with the blessing of the government.  Go figure.  Big Floods in 1993.  Arkansas ground zero.  Catfish farms.

 

Actually, interestingly... They tried to get the Asian carp to take off in Nile... In Egypt during late 1970s... As a food source.  No go, too polluted, etc...

 

They need clean water.  Big river flows to spawn...   As we started taking care of our waters better, they became unintended consequence.

 

Their presence is solely related to clean water.  I am all for clean water... But accept the consequences.  Life ain't fair and perfect.

 

If China wasn't a stinking ecological disaster, they'd be taking off in the big rivers there and treated as a food source.

Thank you Fed Gov for allowing our Asian fish cousins to infiltrate our pristine waters. 

[GoBills808]

On 8/1/2019 at 4:21 AM, BringBackFergy said:

These Kentucky rednecks don't screw around like you fellas in the "Corps".  They don't buy government brand fish food and feed the little pests nor do they hand out coloring books entitled "Albert the Asian Carp Swims Upstream", and they certainly don't hand out baseball caps with an Asian Carp head on the front.  These good ole boys put their minds to work and eradicated thousands of "foreigners" while providing sustenance for those less fortunate.  I'd say they are teaching you a lesson but you're too bullheaded (see what I did there?) to take their advice.

 

Oh, I forgot. You and your PETA friends may protest this method as painful for the carp. I'd gladly contribute to their electric bill to clean out waters of these pesky animals which you have single-handedly allowed to pollute our inland waters.

 

Build. That. CONCRETE REINFORCED BUTTRESS!!

[ExiledInIllinois]

This was from almost a decade ago.  "The Silent Invasion"...LoL... I guess we need another 20 years... But it's coming... Be ready!

 

 

Hey... They are shocking fish way back in 2012!  Whaaaaa? Give$??