Thurman#1 Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) On 7/31/2019 at 11:37 AM, BullBuchanan said: Except every coach we've had in the last 30 years has averaged 8-8 or worse. There's little reason to believe these guys are any different, especially considering their 15-18 record through two years. Nonsense. Losing in the first two years of a near-complete rebuild says nothing about competence and everything about what happens in a rebuild. The next couple of years and their record in them are going to show what kind of coach/GM combo they are. On 7/31/2019 at 3:10 PM, BullBuchanan said: Except they paid a negligible amount less to keep him than to dump him. The fact that they couldn't deal with whatever flaws they perceived he Watkins and Darby had is more of an indictment of the staff than the players in my book. A lot of jokers cheered the Ryan O'Reilly trade from Buffalo too, and that didn't work out so well. Maybe they get lucky and the big money deals they paid out to underachievers like Star and Murphy pan out and one or both of Allen/Edmunds starts to flourish, and then all is forgotten and forgiven. Still, it was unprecedentedly reckless and an unnecessary waste of assets. And what did all those cap savings buy them? Mitch Morse, John Brown, and Cole Beasley? I hardly see that as worth it. As it is they're going into the season with $22M of unused (wasted) cap, because they didn't make any moves to sign marquee players and they're at a point where there's nobody on the team worth using to money on to lock up in an extension. It's just not smart business. I don't like being down on the team, but the amount of backslapping over these guys is just ridiculous. They were hailed as geniuses before they even set foot in the door, and I just don't think they've done anything to deserve that yet. Nah. Look through history and you'll see a ton of great coaches cutting guys who weren't fitting the culture early. Bill Walsh is a famous example, he was absolutely committed to jettisoning guys who didn't fit the culture, no matter how talented they were. And the way Watkins and Darby have played since shows even better what a good decision it was to trade those two guys for picks that could be used to move up for a QB. And equating unused cap money and wasted cap money shows profound misunderstanding. Unused money can be rolled over and used the next year. Are the Eagles a stupid team? They have more unused money ($25.5 mill). Are the Colts big on wasting money? $44.8 mill. It's plenty smart. Fair enough that they haven't proven themselves yet. In the end, only wins will do that, but they are working in smart ways with great consistency. That's more than we've seen from the Bills FO for decades. Edited August 1, 2019 by Thurman#1
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