PromoTheRobot Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: Name the last rookie picked in Rd 1 to be the feature WR (non-slot) for the GOAT QB? Off the top of my head cant, i am sure there have been. ...who is 42 this year. And his replacement for Gronk is 38 and came out of retirement...and is suspended for 4 games. Just saying, if you took an honest look at that team, leaving being the Pats aside, you'd have lots of questions.
GunnerBill Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Name the last rookie WR that lit up the league? It was the 2014 class and then Amari Cooper had 1,000 yards in 2015 as well. Since then certainly in terms of first rounders it has been slim pickings. 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It was the 2014 class and then Amari Cooper had 1,000 yards in 2015 as well. Since then certainly in terms of first rounders it has been slim pickings. Just checked and since then Clavin Ridley - 821 yards and 10 TDs is by far the best rookie output. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Don't laugh. Local radio has been asking some legit tough questions, like who is catching passes besides Edelman. Local NE radio is always spreading pre-season gloom about the Pats, and predicting the End of the Pats when they're 2-2 after 4 games (as they have been 4 of the last 9 and 2 of the last 2 seasons). That way they can glory in a self-created storyline about Overcoming Adversity and Winning as the Underdogs But to your question: last year, Brady's top targets were Edelman, James White, Gronk and Hogan. So he's still got the first two. They may expect Demaryius Thomas to rejuvenate himself after a dip in the NE "fountain of youth", they may expect more out of Dorsett, and of course the Hoodie pattern would be to perceive that some late round pick they've been hanging on to for 1-5 yrs and no one has heard of, is ready to take an Edelman-like step. Then there's their 1st round pick. 1 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 pats fans expect another sb ring the reality is the decline finally begins, patsies** only win 9 games and finish 2nd in the division. bills fans (non homers) expect the bills to win 7 or 8 games the reality is bills will win 11 and take the division after 24 years. 3
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: pats fans expect another sb ring the reality is the decline finally begins, patsies** only win 9 games and finish 2nd in the division. bills fans (non homers) expect the bills to win 7 or 8 games the reality is bills will win 11 and take the division after 24 years. May you be proven a true prophet! 1 1
formerlyofCtown Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 2 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said: There is a bit of a conundrum for me for the off-season. I only follow the Bills. As a consequence, I fall into the trap of comparing the 2019 Bills vs the 2018 Bills. But those two teams won't play each other ever, so that comparison offers limited value. Additionally, It makes sense that all of the Bill's personnel moves are designed to make the team better. As a fan I assume all players who were good last year will be good, and that all young players will improve. In the case of the Bills we expect our old player who was bad last year (McCoy) to rebound. All of these assumptions are reasonable to make. It occurs to me however, that the vast majority of NFL teams are making moves designed to improve their teams. And that all fans expect their teams good players to stay good and their young players to improve. There are two exceptions to this concept that I can see 1) are any teams in "suck for luck" mode, who have gutted their rosters, and plan to start a QB who is not good now and has no future with the team or 2) teams that had to shed significant talent for salary cap reasons ( Seahawks and Ravens are teams in the past that had great declines when this happened.) My question for those that follow more than the Bills are there any teams in the suck for luck, or salary cap shed situations? Judging by ticket sales, Ravens fans are not looking optomistic. 1
Albany,n.y. Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 The Cardinals will be drafting their 3rd straight 1st round QB & hiring their 3rd straight new head coach in an attempt to keep their fans hoping. 24 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: pats fans expect another sb ring the reality is the decline finally begins, patsies** only win 9 games and finish 2nd in the division. bills fans (non homers) expect the bills to win 7 or 8 games the reality is bills will win 11 and take the division after 24 years. Stop with the low expectations, 11 wins won't get us home field through the playoffs. 14 wins or bust! 1
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 Patriots* will see a dip in production without Gronk. But as much as I hope I'm wrong, it won't be as much of a dip as we all hope. Dolphins will be considerably worse. The Giants drafting a project QB tells me that they're in the breakdown phase of a rebuild. Those are the only teams where I would expect the fans to not have high expectations going into the season.
mjt328 Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 2 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said: There is a bit of a conundrum for me for the off-season. I only follow the Bills. As a consequence, I fall into the trap of comparing the 2019 Bills vs the 2018 Bills. But those two teams won't play each other ever, so that comparison offers limited value. Additionally, It makes sense that all of the Bill's personnel moves are designed to make the team better. As a fan I assume all players who were good last year will be good, and that all young players will improve. In the case of the Bills we expect our old player who was bad last year (McCoy) to rebound. All of these assumptions are reasonable to make. It occurs to me however, that the vast majority of NFL teams are making moves designed to improve their teams. And that all fans expect their teams good players to stay good and their young players to improve. There are two exceptions to this concept that I can see 1) are any teams in "suck for luck" mode, who have gutted their rosters, and plan to start a QB who is not good now and has no future with the team or 2) teams that had to shed significant talent for salary cap reasons ( Seahawks and Ravens are teams in the past that had great declines when this happened.) My question for those that follow more than the Bills are there any teams in the suck for luck, or salary cap shed situations? There are some key signs that signal a team is going to take a step back (or will be unable to take a significant step forward). 1. First and foremost, any team planning to start a rookie QB should definitely expect to have a rough season. It's very rare that QB can play at a consistently high level during his 1st season in the pros. Arizona (Murray) and Washington (Haskins) will both likely get significant playing time from their first round picks. I wouldn't be surprised if the NY Giants (Jones) and Denver (Lock) join them, if their veterans flounder early. 2. Second, pay attention to teams who spent the offseason shedding veteran talent for draft picks and cap space. Sometimes this is a clear sign the front office is thinking about rebuilding. Sometimes the vets are easily replaced, and it makes no difference. Miami is the most obvious, but Tampa Bay and the NY Giants really weren't far behind. Some under-the-radar teams who took heavy vet losses include New England, Pittsburgh and Baltimore. 3. Third, it's never too early to be concerned about the injury bug. Cincinnati has been devastated by injuries, and we haven't even gotten to August.
dubs Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Don't laugh. Local radio has been asking some legit tough questions, like who is catching passes besides Edelman. Exactly. 2 hours ago, RiotAct said: yep. not too hard to be worse than last year, when you won the Super Bowl last year! Thats part of it, for sure. But also they have some serious questions and at some point Brady is going to run out of those little clear pills from Limitless! 1
Yockopondowsk Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 First comment ever, on anyone's post. Here goes. I was in Tampa quite a bit over the winter. They are crying themselves to sleep at night down there. Bulldog-Schopp-the-dope style shows down there have people calling in; in despair. "Bucs suck", they expect disaster. Giving Kool Aide away at Publix for free, ... no takers. 1 1
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 I think jets will struggle too, not commonly does a new coach come in and start winning, especially with Gase, just didn't seem that impressive in Miami.
TigerJ Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 I'll go with the Giants after seeing a report that Fin fans, at least some of them think their QB situation is about the best in the league. Those are some seriously rose colored glasses they're wearing down in south Florida.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: ...who is 42 this year. And his replacement for Gronk is 38 and came out of retirement...and is suspended for 4 games. Just saying, if you took an honest look at that team, leaving being the Pats aside, you'd have lots of questions. when Tom and Bill are gone then they can worry.
Alphadawg7 Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 I think Fins are the embodiment of this question. I can see other teams I think will do worse this year, but dont know their fan base all expects it. Fins fans I know all think they will get the first pick in the draft and have completely written this season off.
Mark Long Beach Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I think Fins are the embodiment of this question. I can see other teams I think will do worse this year, but dont know their fan base all expects it. Fins fans I know all think they will get the first pick in the draft and have completely written this season off. If they start Fitz, they won't have the first pick. He has enough magical games to push them to the later stages of the top 10 or worse. I like Fitz, but he's seriously hot and cold.
Alphadawg7 Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mark Long Beach said: If they start Fitz, they won't have the first pick. He has enough magical games to push them to the later stages of the top 10 or worse. I like Fitz, but he's seriously hot and cold. yeah thats the embodiment of FitzCraptrick...just crappy enough to not get you anywhere but also will do just enough to make sure your draft slot is crappier than it should have been.
PlayoffsPlease Posted July 29, 2019 Author Posted July 29, 2019 Based on the feedback here, it looks like we should expect the Bills 2019 playoff spot to come at the expense of the Ravens.
Locomark Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Bills2ref said: Teams I expect to be worse this year than last: Dolphins: Did they even make any offseason moves? QB battle between the great Fitzpatrick and Rosen. The latter of which has the designation of being the only top 10 QB in NFL history to be given away after their rookie season. Giants: Gettleman... yikes. Sticking by Eli for one more year? Or go with the top 50 NFL prospect Daniel Jones. Receivers? Who needs receivers, we have Saquon to run and catch the ball! Good thing we took him instead of one of those heralded 2018 QB prospects. Maybe he can throw it to himself? Redskins: Will undoubtedly be starting a rookie QB this year, and we know how those seasons tend to go. Historical trends are not kind. Bengals: AJ Green already fighting the injury plague. Andy “Mr Average” Dalton still at the helm. Banged up OL. Ravens: Worse on D than last year. Starting a RB at QB again this season, and for the entire season. Stop Lamar’s legs and he isn’t going to beat you passing the football. Pull the Tyrod “Make him be a QB” defense out of the playbook. While I agree with every team you list , I think The Ravens and Bengals fans think they are playoff caliber and ahead of the Bills.
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