Flip Johnson Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) Going into training camp I've heard quite a bit about the Bills' crowded backfield and who will end up being cut or inactive. Additionally, there's been much talk of the devaluing of the RB position as though it is not important any more. One distinction that isn't getting made is that the RB position is being massively devalued monetarily (no teams want to pay or extend RBs) but the value on the football field is actually rising. This is true even as passing increases because of the way RBs are being used. What's valuable now is not the highly paid "bell cow" but the versatile stable of cheap RBs that can create mismatches out of RB/FB heavy personnel groups. Look at the Patriots. They MASSIVELY value running backs - they just don't pay them. If RBs weren't important Belichick wouldn't keep drafting them in the top 3 rounds - Sony Michel $917K (1st round, 2018) - James White $2.5M - Rex Burkhead $1.75M - Damien Harris - Rookie, 3rd rounder - Brandon Bolden $1M - James Develin $1M They aren't wondering who is going to get cut in NE. At least 5 of those guys make the team, if not all six. And NE will use them in a multitude of different formations and situations. They are all unique weapons, whether it be running inside, outside, splitting wide, blocking, catching the ball, etc. Which is why when it comes to the Bills, I see Daboll looking at BB and doing the same thing. Barring injury, Shady, Gore, Singletary, Yeldon, and DiMarco are ALL MAKING THE TEAM. It's not a problem - it's a new strategy in the modern NFL. Edited July 24, 2019 by Flip Johnson
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Are you predicting we keep 5 RB or all 8 on the roster? we might keep 5-we are not keeping 8. 1
Doc Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 The Bills have 7 HBs and 1 FB on their roster. They're not keeping all and probably won't keep more than 4 HBs. 1
PromoTheRobot Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doc said: The Bills have 7 HBs and 1 FB on their roster. They're not keeping all and probably won't keep more than 4 HBs. Tommy Sweeney may well replace Patrick DiMarco in the fullback role. 4 1
Misterbluesky Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Flip Johnson said: Going into training camp I've heard quite a bit about the Bills' crowded backfield and who will end up being cut or inactive. Additionally, there's been much talk of the devaluing of the RB position as though it is not important any more. One distinction that isn't getting made is that the RB position is being massively devalued monetarily (no teams want to pay or extend RBs) but the value on the football field is actually rising. This is true even as passing increases because of the way RBs are being used. What's valuable now is not the highly paid "bell cow" but the versatile stable of cheap RBs that can create mismatches out of RB/FB heavy personnel groups. Look at the Patriots. They MASSIVELY value running backs - they just don't pay them. If RBs weren't important Belichick wouldn't keep drafting them in the top 3 rounds - Sony Michel $917K (1st round, 2018) - James White $2.5M - Rex Burkhead $1.75M - Damien Harris - Rookie, 3rd rounder - Brandon Bolden $1M - James Develin $1M They aren't wondering who is going to get cut in NE. At least 5 of those guys make the team, if not all six. And NE will use them in a multitude of different formations and situations. They are all unique weapons, whether it be running inside, outside, splitting wide, blocking, catching the ball, etc. Which is why when it comes to the Bills, I see Daboll looking at BB and doing the same thing. Barring injury, Shady, Gore, Singletary, Yeldon, and DiMarco are ALL MAKING THE TEAM. It's not a problem - it's a new strategy in the modern NFL. Doubt it...this means you only keep 4 pass catchers and Roberts. P..S- Beane is going to add another WR once the surprise cuts start coming out in August. I'm looking at Murphy losing out..I love him but not as a returner. Go back ..look at the '18 preseason footage.He's a natural bull..you need a yard on 4th and one??? You call his number.imo
CommonCents Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Tommy Sweeney may well replace Patrick DiMarco in the fullback role. Did you watch him at BC? My buddy has season tickets and assures me that Sweeney will end up being the starting TE here.
FLFan Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: I'm looking at Murphy losing out..I love him but not as a returner. Go back ..look at the '18 preseason footage.He's a natural bull..you need a yard on 4th and one??? You call his number.imo This is Gore’s role. He is still the best at it.
Misterbluesky Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, FLFan said: This is Gore’s role. He is still the best at it. I'm not sold on that fact yet,FLFan. He's another year older and isn't in Rochester on day one. This is a rumour that I heard...he signed with the Bills because his son had plans to attend UB.Again..this is local word,the latest I have heard is his son is not on the Bulls squad. Who knows..strange things happen in August. Just sayin.
FLFan Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Misterbluesky said: I'm not sold on that fact yet,FLFan. He's another year older and isn't in Rochester on day one. This is a rumour that I heard...he signed with the Bills because his son had plans to attend UB.Again..this is local word,the latest I have heard is his son is not on the Bulls squad. Who knows..strange things happen in August. Just sayin. Fair enough. Let’s see how it plays out, but I would be surprised if Murphy rises to the upper level of this group, even if Gore is out. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Doc said: The Bills have 7 HBs and 1 FB on their roster. They're not keeping all and probably won't keep more than 4 HBs. ...sounds about right....we got thinned out quickly with injuries to Murphy, Jones as well as Shady's occasional hammy...even the Ford kid got some PT......
Misterbluesky Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 On no FL...I meant Murphy being your #3.I would be confident.
Augie Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) Wouldn’t it be nice to know in advance which position is going to be devastated by injury??? Seems to be the way it works..... . Edited July 24, 2019 by Augie
Misterbluesky Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Augie said: Wouldn’t it be nice to know in advance which position is going to be devastated by injury??? Seems to be the way it works..... Hey..we have a new carpet,that should help? I still don't know why we don't go natural. Green Bay,Pittsburgh,Cleveland,Washington,Chicago do it. rockpile style..get 'em muddy. Signed, Joe DeLamielleure Edited July 24, 2019 by Misterbluesky
PromoTheRobot Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Did you watch him at BC? My buddy has season tickets and assures me that Sweeney will end up being the starting TE here. I thought the scouting report was he is a blocking TE more than a receiver?
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 I say say keep 11 of them, and play them all at one time! Last game of the season, can't hold anything back now!
Boca BIlls Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Don't think the OP realized how many RBs are on this roster. 1
Simon Says Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Tommy Sweeney may well replace Patrick DiMarco in the fullback role. Tommy Sweeney isnt exactly a FB. Could he replace Dimarcos special teams play? Edited July 24, 2019 by Georgie
BuffAlone Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Not gonna happen. Might keep 4...and that'd be a stretch, and a wasted roster spot. Keep Gore throughout TC, then let him go. Keep 3 on active roster. And one stashed away. Thats how to maximize the roster IMHO
3rdand12 Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Interesting to compare how Patriots get it done though. How many WRs do they keep . and do they stash players on PS ? The WRs vs RB vs TEs should be worth noting when it comes down to 53
MrEpsYtown Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 I think the key to this idea is what happens with DiMarco. Lee Smith is the guy who can double as a fullback and tight end, as he did a lot of it in Oakland the last couple of years.
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