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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

This is bad for Mueller. 

 

Can't get into Mifsud at all? 

He started it? Lol, I thought the Russian attack on our election started it? But Republicans can't say anything bad about Putin 

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Jordan has a point... Mueller looks terrible during this segment.

He sure did and the Barr is investigating the sources of this whole sham was great.

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

This is bad for Mueller. 

 

Can't get into Mifsud at all? 

I must say Mueller has not sounded great in areas....sounded confused in areas..the collusion/conspiracy thing..i am listened on radio and he just sounds not so confident. 

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No one arguing here is going to agree on obstruction, but does anyone actually care that the Russians interfered in the election? 

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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

He started it? Lol, I thought the Russian attack on our election started it? But Republicans can't say anything bad about Putin 

 

Mifsud was the original source. This is from Mueller and the FBI (McCabe). Mifsud was the guy who originally told G-Pop about the emails, which he then discussed with Downer (if you buy that). 

 

This is not in dispute. What has been in dispute is who Mifsud works for. You'd admit that if it turns out Mifsud works for western intelligence, and not Russian as has been told to us time and time again, it destroys the foundation of the entire counterintelligence investigation. 

 

If that goes away, and it is, then everything that came after (Cross Fire Hurricane) is null and void.

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Just now, jrober38 said:

No one is going to agree on obstruction, but does anyone actually care that the Russians interfered in the election? 

 

I do. Deeply. It's why I started looking into this so hard 3 years ago. 

 

But interference and meddling were made to be synonymous with conspiracy/collusion/Trump by the media who was pushing a lie. 

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Just now, plenzmd1 said:

I must say Mueller has not sounded great in areas....sounded confused in areas..the collusion/conspiracy thing..i am listened on radio and he just sounds not so confident. 

 

He sounds like an old man who isn't used to or maybe mentally sharp enough, to properly respond to experienced politicians yelling at him and setting him up to try and trip over his own words. 

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Just now, jrober38 said:

 

He sounds like an old man who isn't used to or maybe mentally sharp enough, to properly respond to experienced politicians yelling at him and setting him up to try and trip over his own words. 

 

He testified over 80 times previously and never looked this bad. 

 

He looks bad today because he's either too old (doubtful) or he's under tremendous pressure and knows he's caught red handed pushing a partisan investigation, not one rooted in a desire to find justice.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I do. Deeply. It's why I started looking into this so hard 3 years ago. 

 

But interference and meddling were made to be synonymous with conspiracy/collusion/Trump by the media who was pushing a lie. 

 

OK good. 

 

I agree that the media pushed something that wasn't there, but it would be nice to know that the federal government is actively taking steps to make sure a foreign power can't interfere in the future. 

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

He testified over 80 times previously and never looked this bad. 

 

He looks bad today because he's either too old (doubtful) or he's under tremendous pressure and knows he's caught red handed pushing a partisan investigation, not one rooted in a desire to find justice.

 

How many of those times was he 75 years old?

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1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

OK good. 

 

I agree that the media pushed something that wasn't there, but it would be nice to know that the federal government is actively taking steps to make sure a foreign power can't interfere in the future. 

 

What you haven't hit on yet, but will, is that Russia did not interfere in our election as much as our own intelligence services who were trying to secure a Clinton win. That's CIA, FBI, DOJ, and the White House -- they all did more to effect the outcome of the election than Russia dreamed. 

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6 minutes ago, pop gun said:

He sure did and the Barr is investigating the sources of this whole sham was great.

Putin? You think it's funny the Russians attacked us? 

Posted
5 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

No one arguing here is going to agree on obstruction, but does anyone actually care that the Russians interfered in the election? 

Who won that arm wrestling match?

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Russia bought facebook ads. 10k worth. And used trolls online (not as many as is reported). That's it. 

 

The CIA and FBI worked with one candidate over the other to inject the political world with Russian disinformation paid for by the Clinton campaign, and when that failed, they tried a backdoor coup. 

 

THAT'S the story. Not Russia.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

All this interference in the election by Russia, and we are suppose to think it had zero affect? That does not make any sense 

 

That's a separate issue.  And Barry should have done something about it.

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