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Just now, jrober38 said:

 

There's zero evidence whatsoever that Obama had anything to do with that.

 

With that said, the players who were involved were way out of line and should probably on trial for committing crimes. I agree with you there. 

 

That's not true. I have loads of evidence he was involved with it. Start here. Page 82-85

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf

 

you've been lied to for three years about what this whole thing is really about. It's about that memo.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

That's not true. I have loads of evidence he was involved with it. Start here. Page 82-85

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf

 

you've been lied to for three years about what this whole thing is really about. It's about that memo.

 

I'm very familiar with what I assume is in there, but save me the time of reading the whole thing. What pages mention Obama?

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"Respectfully, you did not follow the special counsel instructions." Ratcliffe "You wrote 180 pages about potential crimes that weren't charged or decided. And you managed to violate every principle and sacred tradition of prosecutors."

Just now, jrober38 said:

 

I'm very familiar with what I assume is in there, but save me the time of reading the whole thing. What pages mention Obama?

 

What do you think is in there?

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Just now, jrober38 said:

 

I'm very familiar with what I assume is in there, but save me the time of reading the whole thing. What pages mention Obama?

:blink:

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

"Respectfully, you did not follow the special counsel instructions." Ratcliffe "You wrote 180 pages about potential crimes that weren't charged or decided. And you managed to violate every principle and sacred tradition of prosecutors."

 

What do you think is in there?

 

That various FBI personnel lied to get FISA warrants to surveil Trump.

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Just now, jrober38 said:

 

That various FBI agents lied to get FISA warrants to surveil Trump.

 

No. 

 

That's a FISC opinion memo from 2016. Before Trump/Russia was even a thing.

 

It's the starting point of everything. That you don't know what it is, or have never heard of it isn't surprising. But without understanding what's in that document you don't understand what this is really all about or how Trump/Russia started.

(It isn't surprising because the media has hid it from you for years)

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Not circle logic, sound. He's pointing out that none of the witnesses were crossed, making their statements not evidence but one sided/untested. He also brings up the omission of various 302s which were relevant. 

 

 

 

Now Mr. Purple Heart Cohen is up. 

 

No fried chicken in sight for this assclown... 

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Mueller says he's NOT FAMILIAR WITH FUSION GPS... WHAT?! :lol: :lol: :lol: 

(Chabot brings up Glenn Simpson, Natalia V, and Fusion GPS -- and Mueller says it's all outside his purview -- which says it all, folks)

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2 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Why would he be?

 

Why was Manafort's work in Ukraine in 2011 in scope, but the origin of Russian conspiracy not? 

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Because Fusion GPS is a key part of the entire story. 

 

It's a lie. 

 

Fusion GPS was part of Trump's attempts to obstruct justice?

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1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

Fusion GPS was part of Trump's attempts to obstruct justice?

 

Say what?  Mueller's primary mandate was not obstruction but conspiracy.  Thanks for proving that this is a witch hunt.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Fusion GPS was the source of nearly everything in Volume 1 of the report. 

 

They've already established that Trump didn't collude with Russia.

 

The issue at this point is volume 2, where Trump appears to have tried to obstruct justice multiple times. 

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