Tiberius Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Here we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 So what will be the narrative when absolutely NOTHING new is presented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, McGee Return TD said: The last strategy of a desperate soul: 1984esque doublespeak. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 If a tree falls in the forest and nobody’s there to hear it, does it make a sound? What a ludicrous statement from some people who are supposed to be our best legal minds? We are ALL innocent until proven guilty! Or at least we used to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chris farley said: So what will be the narrative when absolutely NOTHING new is presented? Nothing is going to change after today. The Left Wingers will continue asking to start impeachment proceedings, and the Right will continue to defend Trump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnot78 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Nothing is going to change after today. The Left Wingers will continue asking to start impeachment proceedings, and the Right will continue to defend Trump. This x100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Nothing is going to change after today. The Left Wingers will continue asking to start impeachment proceedings, and the Right will continue to defend Trump. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: If a tree falls in the forest and nobody’s there to hear it, does it make a sound? What a ludicrous statement from some people who are supposed to be our best legal minds? We are ALL innocent until proven guilty! Or at least we used to be. Just like OJ was innocent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: Just like OJ was innocent! OJ is indeed innocent. That’s how are System works. When people stop accepting that, we have a real problem. But then again you’ve yet to accept the results of the 2016 election either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: OJ is indeed innocent. That’s how are System works. When people stop accepting that, we have a real problem. But then again you’ve yet to accept the results of the 2016 election either. There's a difference between being innocent and not being proven guilty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: There's a difference between being innocent and not being proven guilty. What is that difference in our system of justice? Our system of justice is innocent until proven guilty. Saying someone wasn't proven to be be not guilty is quite literally a nonsense statement -- unless you're advocating undermining our entire system of justice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: What is that difference in our system of justice? Our system of justice is innocent until proven guilty. Saying someone wasn't proven to be be not guilty is quite literally a nonsense statement -- unless you're advocating undermining our entire system of justice. When a jury delivers a decision, do they say "innocent", or "not guilty"? I get what you're saying, I'm just pointing out that the jury for OJ never said he was innocent. He was never exonerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Today is about to be on a... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: What is that difference in our system of justice? Our system of justice is innocent until proven guilty. Saying someone wasn't proven to be be not guilty is quite literally a nonsense statement -- unless you're advocating undermining our entire system of justice. Thank you! That fact is apparently lost on a lot of people these days. The defendant walks into the court room INNOCENT and if they walk out they are still and forever more will be INNOCENT. Some folks need to be accused of something one day and see if they want to try that shoe on their foot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: OJ is indeed innocent. That’s how are System works. When people stop accepting that, we have a real problem. But then again you’ve yet to accept the results of the 2016 election either. Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: When a jury delivers a decision, do they say "innocent", or "not guilty"? I get what you're saying, I'm just pointing out that the jury for OJ never said he was innocent. He was never exonerated. Oh brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: When a jury delivers a decision, do they say "innocent", or "not guilty"? I get what you're saying, I'm just pointing out that the jury for OJ never said he was innocent. He was never exonerated. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. A jury renders its verdict after a trial. A prosecutor, which Mueller was, does not render exonerations. That's not at all how the system works. Suggesting Mueller "didn't clear Trump by not charging him" is in fact incorrect. By not charging him, by stating that there was not evidence found to support the Russia collusion theory, Mueller did clear Trump. He remains innocent, not guilty. Mueller's probe proved it. Unless you want to subvert our system of justice which many TDS suffers do because "TRUMP IS A NAZI" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 At least OJ wasn't a traitor. A fifth columnist against our democracy. Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Innocent until PROVEN guilty. A jury renders its verdict after a trial. A prosecutor, which Mueller was, does not render exonerations. That's not at all how the system works. Suggesting Mueller "didn't clear Trump by not charging him" is in fact incorrect. By not charging him, by stating that there was not evidence found to support the Russia collusion theory, Mueller did clear Trump. He remains innocent, not guilty. Mueller's probe proved it. Unless you want to subvert our system of justice which many TDS suffers do because "TRUMP IS A NAZI" We literally are down to "You can't totally prove he is a traitor!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Innocent until PROVEN guilty. A jury renders its verdict after a trial. A prosecutor, which Mueller was, does not render exonerations. That's not at all how the system works. Suggesting Mueller "didn't clear Trump by not charging him" is in fact incorrect. By not charging him, by stating that there was not evidence found to support the Russia collusion theory, Mueller did clear Trump. He remains innocent, not guilty. Mueller's probe proved it. Unless you want to subvert our system of justice which many TDS suffers do because "TRUMP IS A NAZI" I'm talking about OJ Simpson. Sure, you enter a courtroom with the presumption of innocence, but a jury's decision to convict someone comes down to whether prosecutors present enough evidence to determine that they are guilty. In the event they don't meet that threshold, you leave the courtroom "not guilty". Also, Mueller never said there wasn't enough evidence against Trump. He did say that if he felt Trump didn't commit any crimes, he'd have said so, but he never said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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