Gugny Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea he started with Darnold and Mayfield are exciting... Josh is intruging. I took that the other way from you. I took him as inferring you can take Darnold and Mayfield to the bank. Josh is the most intuging because the talent level is high, but the situation last year was bad and now the situation is a bit better (the line, Beasley Ed Oliver upgrading the D and Singletary) there is a chance Josh could make good on the potential. I might be totally wrong but my inference was - bank those other two... they are gonna be good. Josh Allen is still a question but he could be not just good but great. This is exactly how I took it. That said, I'm still glad we took Josh Allen.
Rocket94 Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 I like it...old school farm boy makes it big. Not much to do after work but Chuck footballs!
Mr. WEO Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Can he emulate the footwork though? Man.......that footwork 1
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Can he emulate the footwork though? Man.......that footwork Whatever happened to that poster? 1
Dr. Who Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea he started with Darnold and Mayfield are exciting... Josh is intruging. I took that the other way from you. I took him as inferring you can take Darnold and Mayfield to the bank. Josh is the most intuging because the talent level is high, but the situation last year was bad and now the situation is a bit better (the line, Beasley Ed Oliver upgrading the D and Singletary) there is a chance Josh could make good on the potential. I might be totally wrong but my inference was - bank those other two... they are gonna be good. Josh Allen is still a question but he could be not just good but great. That is a possible interpretation and it is not implausible. My take is different. I don't think Josh was third because he is more a work in progress and thus more questionable, though that may be true. I think Josh was the name that enthused him and was the first to come to mind. I think he felt obliged to mention the best young qbs from the class and that's why he quickly mentioned Darnold and Mayfield before going into the substance of his answer. 4
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: That is a possible interpretation and it is not implausible. My take is different. I don't think Josh was third because he is more a work in progress and thus more questionable, though that may be true. I think Josh was the name that enthused him and was the first to come to mind. I think he felt obliged to mention the best young qbs from the class and that's why he quickly mentioned Darnold and Mayfield before going into the substance of his answer. I think yours is a plausible interpretation too. My take is my take but it isn't the only way to interpret it. 1
Augie Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: I see your point. The other 2 had great college programs and coaching Josh didn’t have. Allen’s arm strength is solely what he had to offer and with near zero help in quality coaching. It appears he knows this too and is willing to learn. He’s just a couple years behind the other two in quality coaching. I’m hopeful his cannon and unreal running skills will bode us well while he completes his apprenticeship for a couple more years.. The more I see of Josh the person, the more I really like him. I know, I know..... EJ was a great guy too according to all accounts, but Josh is hard not to root for. He carries himself extremely well. I would follow that guy! . Edited July 24, 2019 by Augie 6
K-9 Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Augie said: The more I see of Josh the person, the more I really like him. I know, I know..... EJ was a great guy to according to all accounts, but Josh is hard not to root for. He carries himself extremely well. I would follow that guy! I would reiterate that it’s not about following him, it’s about joining him. 1
IDBillzFan Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, MacGyver said: Oh boy, more "blue collar, lunch pail, farm boy" talk. Sure hope that means hes a 60% passer this season. Kind of an odd statement from a Bills fan. You'd think most Bills fans would appreciate the value of blue collar lunch pail farm boy types. Blue collar lunch pail farm boys don't retire at halftime. They don't let their mouth do all talking and walk off the field in a huff because they didn't get enough attention during a game. They don't ignore a kid looking for an autograph, and they don't take days off. They know half an effort is no effort, and they know everything works better when everyone works together. And they know how to lead and be leaders. So, y'know...yeah, accuracy...but accuracy minus solid core and work ethic = backup QB. 1 2 3
Jrb1979 Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: I'm concerned about Allen's anticipation. In Embedded, you see Beasley telling him to throw with anticipation, and Allen protests, saying he'll put it on Beasley as soon as he turns (in other words, "My arm is so strong I don't have to worry about anticipation"). Not a great sign. Its not a great sign but you're forgetting that you can't say anything negative about the franchise QB. You can't take away the fans hope going into the season.? 6 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Kind of an odd statement from a Bills fan. You'd think most Bills fans would appreciate the value of blue collar lunch pail farm boy types. Blue collar lunch pail farm boys don't retire at halftime. They don't let their mouth do all talking and walk off the field in a huff because they didn't get enough attention during a game. They don't ignore a kid looking for an autograph, and they don't take days off. They know half an effort is no effort, and they know everything works better when everyone works together. And they know how to lead and be leaders. So, y'know...yeah, accuracy...but accuracy minus solid core and work ethic = backup QB. You guys have to get over the Blue collar lunch pail garbage. Its not the Rockpile days anymore. I realize a lot of you are fans from those days but teams now aren't built that way anymore. Its 2019 not 1960. 2
IDBillzFan Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: You guys have to get over the Blue collar lunch pail garbage. Its not the Rockpile days anymore. I realize a lot of you are fans from those days but teams now aren't built that way anymore. Its 2019 not 1960. Solid work ethic doesn't go out of style and is imperative in team play, regardless of what year it is and regardless of what job you have. And THAT is what blue collar lunch pail farm boy is all about. But for what it's worth, your post made me think of this song. 1 4 2 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Its not a great sign but you're forgetting that you can't say anything negative about the franchise QB. You can't take away the fans hope going into the season.? You guys have to get over the Blue collar lunch pail garbage. Its not the Rockpile days anymore. I realize a lot of you are fans from those days but teams now aren't built that way anymore. Its 2019 not 1960. Sorry, I didn’t realize that hard work and taking pride in your craft no longer pays any dividends on the field? That’s not a generational thing, it’s a universal truth, as relevant as the concept of gravity. Knock it all you want, but character still matters. 2 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: But for what it's worth, your post made me think of this song. That was great! Now tell those quadruplets to get off my lawn. ?
Jrb1979 Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Solid work ethic doesn't go out of style and is imperative in team play, regardless of what year it is and regardless of what job you have. And THAT is what blue collar lunch pail farm boy is all about. But for what it's worth, your post made me think of this song. I agree solid work ethic doesn't go out of style but it's not Blue collar. Bills fans seem to want to have a Blue Collar team for some reason. Though most aren't even in the Bills territory anymore.
blacklabel Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, Augie said: The more I see of Josh the person, the more I really like him. I know, I know..... EJ was a great guy too according to all accounts, but Josh is hard not to root for. He carries himself extremely well. I would follow that guy! Yeah, every time I see stuff about work ethic, character, competitiveness, etc. it'll remind me of EJ. Good dude, I'm sure he worked hard as well. He didn't get the best deal in having Marrone/Hackett tell him from day one, "If it isn't there, just run." He already had that mentality in college and I thought it was something he needed to work on but Marrone was all about his 1970s-style power run game so that's what we got. The other thing for EJ that never came together was the mental side of things. I recall reading an article on the official website just before the 2014 season began and it mentioned how he struggled in school quite a bit and needed tutors. Nothing wrong with that, but I'm sure that puts someone even more behind the 8-ball when trying to study/recall/execute all the things a professional QB does. He also looked like he lacked a degree of trust in his teammates. If the play wasn't there as designed, his instinct was to do it himself somehow.
teef Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: I agree solid work ethic doesn't go out of style but it's not Blue collar. Bills fans seem to want to have a Blue Collar team for some reason. Though most aren't even in the Bills territory anymore. i think you have an odd take when it comes to bills fans. from your short time on this board i've realized: 1. you think only people in wny drink light beer, (and that light beer will be a thing of the past) 2. if people are excited for training camp/football to start, they don't like summer. 1 1
Chandler#81 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, teef said: i think you have an odd take when it comes to bills fans. from your short time on this board i've realized: 1. you think only people in wny drink light beer, (and that light beer will be a thing of the past) 2. if people are excited for training camp/football to start, they don't like summer. hmmm?... No, seems more of a crackhead.
MacGyver Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Kind of an odd statement from a Bills fan. You'd think most Bills fans would appreciate the value of blue collar lunch pail farm boy types. Blue collar lunch pail farm boys don't retire at halftime. They don't let their mouth do all talking and walk off the field in a huff because they didn't get enough attention during a game. They don't ignore a kid looking for an autograph, and they don't take days off. They know half an effort is no effort, and they know everything works better when everyone works together. And they know how to lead and be leaders. So, y'know...yeah, accuracy...but accuracy minus solid core and work ethic = backup QB. Oh, I forgot the big hands for throwing the ball in the cold part. Throwing the ball accurately, consistently, is what we need from the QB, that's it. I did not hear Palmer mention that. People in the media keep saying the "blue collar" garbage because there isn't much else nice to say about the Buffalo fans base. Rust belt fans with sports organizations that never win. Edited July 24, 2019 by MacGyver
teef Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: hmmm?... No, seems more of a crackhead. i assumed street drugs were involved.
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