OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yes he will find some way to cheat. He always does and fans will say that is great thing to do as long as he and P*ts win. See post before yours - away game since there are so many complaints from season ticket holders. ...the only reason I can see this asinine proposal being hatched is if you limit a player to 16 games, NFLPA cannot counter with pay increase demands if allowed to play 18.....
Saxum Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, Gugny said: I like the idea of 18 games. Stop testing for marijuana and the players won't have a problem with 18 games at all. That may be the compromise the league is willing to make. But what do the non-potheads get? Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...the only reason I can see this asinine proposal being hatched is if you limit a player to 16 games, NFLPA cannot counter with pay increase demands if allowed to play 18..... I wonder how they handled it when they increased number of games to 18.
nucci Posted July 13, 2019 Author Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: They’d be better off playing three preseason games and simply adding another bye week to the regular season. The European soccer leagues have numerous breaks during their seasons. The NFL would still be on TV the same amount but it would provide players much needed recovery time and allow fans a mid season break as well. (You have to mow the lawn some time!) Preseason games are not needed...most established players barely play...it's why there is only 1 cut down date so the fringe players stick around to play
WhoTom Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Limeaid said: That may be the compromise the league is willing to make. But what do the non-potheads get? They get their teammates who otherwise would have been suspended for a BS reason.
Saxum Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, WhoTom said: They get their teammates who otherwise would have been suspended for a BS reason. Well I guess that it is BS is opinion of a pothead. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Limeaid said: That may be the compromise the league is willing to make. But what do the non-potheads get? I wonder how they handled it when they increased number of games to 18. ...just a wild hunch.......player would get 18/16 of their annual contract amount...eliminating 2 pre-season games would be a non-consideration IMO because so many play a series or two anyhow......sure the financially beleaguered Owners would argue differently (COUGH)........ Edited July 13, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy
mjd1001 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 The players need to only play 16 of the 18 games...I hate that idea. I want an 18 game seasons.....the other ideas I like that have been brought up: Expand the gameday roster and the total roster and go with 2 bye weeks. Only 2 preaseason games..or get rid of the preseason totally.
PromoTheRobot Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 I just remembered the USFL regular season was 18 games long. I don't know how many preseason games, if any, they played.
formerlyofCtown Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, Gugny said: I like the idea of 18 games. I don't see why it's such a hardship on players' bodies. Especially if they force each player to play no more than 16 games. Also ... how have all those perennial playoff teams survived all these years? They've played up to 19 games. How can hockey players in the NHL get through 82 games of a more physically demanding sport? Stop testing for marijuana and the players won't have a problem with 18 games at all. They can get high as **** for two of them.
Locomark Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) NFL Players bodies can't take an 18 game season. You would need 70 man rosters. I love watching games, so as a fan I am all for it, but right now many teams can barely stay healthy for 16. The roster expansion would be key. I really don't think the players association should vote against increasing the season by 10% if you added 30% more jobs. I do question how much small market cities like Buffalo would have to jack up its prices to pay for that though.... Edited July 13, 2019 by Locomark
Saxum Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Locomark said: NFL Players bodies can't take an 18 game season. You would need 70 man rosters. I love watching games, so as a fan I am all for it, but right now many teams can barely stay healthy for 16. The roster expansion would be key. I really don't think the players association should vote against increasing the season by 10% if you added 30% more jobs. I do question how much small market cities like Buffalo would have to jack up its prices to pay for that though.... Roster expansion helps for positions that rotate but does not help for players who play every snap. What about kickers, long snappers and punters? Are they to use substitutes there? 1
Locomark Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Roster expansion helps for positions that rotate but does not help for players who play every snap. What about kickers, long snappers and punters? Are they to use substitutes there? Kickers/Punter rarely get contact. Its more concerning about key players like the QB.
Saxum Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, Locomark said: Kickers/Punter rarely get contact. Its more concerning about key players like the QB. Tell that to our kicker who was run into by Seattle player and referee could not even get call right.
row_33 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, Locomark said: NFL Players bodies can't take an 18 game season. You would need 70 man rosters. I love watching games, so as a fan I am all for it, but right now many teams can barely stay healthy for 16. The roster expansion would be key. I really don't think the players association should vote against increasing the season by 10% if you added 30% more jobs. I do question how much small market cities like Buffalo would have to jack up its prices to pay for that though.... Thats the idea, drastically reduces the chance of a man getting to his pension let alone few agency Saves $$ for the owners
Cripple Creek Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Do you play backups on road so crowd at hone does not complain they paid full price for seeing backups play? You do understand that players get hurt and take a game off in other sports?
ColoradoBills Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Roster expansion helps for positions that rotate but does not help for players who play every snap. What about kickers, long snappers and punters? Are they to use substitutes there? It's not even just those positions. Return guys, gunners, how do you rotate the OL guys. It's going to water down the competition and be a nightmare for Head Coaches. What if you plan on your starting TE to sit that week and the 2nd string TE gets nicked up in practice. Now you are forced to start the 3rd string TE. What if that scenario happens to a punt return guy and the 3rd string guy fumbles 3 punts? Fans (especially fantasy ((which I am not)) and Vegas bettors) will be pissed. There will be constant criticism from the fans about who the HC should of sat or should of played for each game. It's a stupid idea and should not be implemented.
row_33 Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 They can barely put competent men out there for 1/3 of roster slots as it is
Cripple Creek Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 54 minutes ago, Locomark said: NFL Players bodies can't take an 18 game season. You would need 70 man rosters. I love watching games, so as a fan I am all for it, but right now many teams can barely stay healthy for 16. The roster expansion would be key. I really don't think the players association should vote against increasing the season by 10% if you added 30% more jobs. I do question how much small market cities like Buffalo would have to jack up its prices to pay for that though.... You do understand that this proposal includes a provision that no player is active for more than 16 regular season games? Just now, row_33 said: They can barely put competent men out there for 1/3 of roster slots as it is Good, then solid coaching and FO talent evaluation become even more important.
Saxum Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: You do understand that players get hurt and take a game off in other sports? Yes but do other fans? There were comments against it for that reason including comments from other teams' fans/ I did not say I agree with it.
Cripple Creek Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yes but do other fans? There were comments against it for that reason including comments from other teams' fans/ I did not say I agree with it. Owners are greedy. Players are greedy. They'll figure out a way to make it work. Fans are an afterthought. Edited July 13, 2019 by Cripple Creek
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