whatdrought Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 Hm... Not a ton of leverage for a running back, but I bet they get the deal done... They would look pretty dumb getting rid of one of their best weapons going into River's late twilight. If they do trade him, I wonder who would be in the market? I can't think off the top of my head any team that is desperate for backfield help... Maybe somewhere in the AFC South. Bucs maybe?
whatdrought Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Makes you wonder how much players know about the agents strategy before it's put in place...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 Kick his tyres?! (That was for BritBill) 2
Captain Hindsight Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 Gordon is an excellent back. Hopefully they can find some common ground 2
Stank_Nasty Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) the guy has played a full season ONCE in his 4 seasons... he may not have a ton of leverage here. Edited July 11, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 Considering most running backs really only get 2 contracts - and he's averaged about 1200 total yards and 10 TDs per year. I don't really blame him. Hard to determine his value - he's not gurley or bell, but he's also 26 and if he plays out this year he's subject to a tag year - thats 11 million in 2019. Assuming he plays well this year and gets tagged next year he'd make approximately 16-17 million. He's now 28 - the team will have drafted his replacement and "his best days are behind him" so he ends up with a modest mark ingram style deal (3yr 15 mil 6 guaranteed). He probably plays out 2 and makes 10. So he made 26 million - if he plays well and doesnt get hurt. He signs a big deal now in the realm of the bell 4 and 50 - he gets 25ish guaranteed at signing. If he plays well he probably makes more of that 50, or signs a 2nd deal when he gets cut - if he doesn't play well (or gets hurt) he still makes the same 26 he would have made by playing out his 5th year option/tag. From a business perspective running backs kind of have to be selfish... 4 2
MJS Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, dneveu said: Considering most running backs really only get 2 contracts - and he's averaged about 1200 total yards and 10 TDs per year. I don't really blame him. Hard to determine his value - he's not gurley or bell, but he's also 26 and if he plays out this year he's subject to a tag year - thats 11 million in 2019. Assuming he plays well this year and gets tagged next year he'd make approximately 16-17 million. He's now 28 - the team will have drafted his replacement and "his best days are behind him" so he ends up with a modest mark ingram style deal (3yr 15 mil 6 guaranteed). He probably plays out 2 and makes 10. So he made 26 million - if he plays well and doesnt get hurt. He signs a big deal now in the realm of the bell 4 and 50 - he gets 25ish guaranteed at signing. If he plays well he probably makes more of that 50, or signs a 2nd deal when he gets cut - if he doesn't play well (or gets hurt) he still makes the same 26 he would have made by playing out his 5th year option/tag. From a business perspective running backs kind of have to be selfish... He's not going to get Bell money, though. 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, MJS said: He's not going to get Bell money, though. No - but even 20 guaranteed is more than the 5 he's guaranteed right now.
Logic Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 I'm over paying top dollar for running backs. Draft a few of them between rounds 1-5, keep them through their rookie deals, and then let them walk and repeat process. I really don't see ANY consistently great NFL franchises paying big money to running backs these days. 3
YoloinOhio Posted July 11, 2019 Author Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, MJS said: He's not going to get Bell money, though. He should get close imo, he’s used a lot in the passing game (or should be because he has that ability) and is younger Edited July 11, 2019 by YoloinOhio
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Logic said: I'm over paying top dollar for running backs. So you’re over overpaying top dollar for running backs? Over. EDIT: Upon further review, does ‘over overpaying’ mean you will no longer overpay? Or does it mean the player who’s worth 5 million can command a 10 million contract, and then you go and give him 15 million? Is that ‘over overpaying’? ? Edited July 11, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1
BringBackFlutie Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, Logic said: I'm over paying top dollar for running backs. Draft a few of them between rounds 1-5, keep them through their rookie deals, and then let them walk and repeat process. I really don't see ANY consistently great NFL franchises paying big money to running backs these days. I'd pay $100,000,000,000 to have Earl Campbell on my team. 1 1
Augie Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: We have 2 of the top 4. Do we get a prize? Maybe an AARP discount? 4
YoloinOhio Posted July 11, 2019 Author Posted July 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Augie said: We have 2 of the top 4. Do we get a prize? Maybe an AARP discount? I don’t know but how soon before someone brings up the Anthony Lynn/LeSean McCoy connection for a trade if Gordon holds out until the season? It wont be me 5 1
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