sherpa Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 i hope they get it right and don't turn it into some stupid love story to attract women, as they did doing Pearl Harbor. I really hope they give significant consideration to the points made in "Shattered Sword," which refutes a lot of the silly nonsense , and tells the true story from the Japanese tactical doctrine and procedural practices. As a student of the battle of Midway, I can't wait. 1
RochesterRob Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, sherpa said: i hope they get it right and don't turn it into some stupid love story to attract women, as they did doing Pearl Harbor. I really hope they give significant consideration to the points made in "Shattered Sword," which refutes a lot of the silly nonsense , and tells the true story from the Japanese tactical doctrine and procedural practices. As a student of the battle of Midway, I can't wait. I wouldn't get my hopes too high. Roland Emmerich is involved and the cast including Woody Harrelson could cut either way. The bar is not set too high when looking at the Charlton Heston pic from 1976. Heston was a little over the top but a fair number of actors were workman-like including Henry Fonda, Martin Balsam, and Hal Holbrook. The special effects were nothing special but were not over presented in light of most of the ships and planes involved no longer existed by 1976. If CGI does not grate on you too bad then you won't mind seeing ships such as the USS Yorktown sail again and since they are going back to Dec 7, 1941 maybe we will see ships like the USS Lexington for Coral Sea action. 20th Century Fox spent liberally on Tora Tora Tora but Universal I believe was much tighter for their Midway. I don't know if the history will be set straight given what has come out in the last few decades. We shall see. 1
coloradobillsfan Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: 20th Century Fox spent liberally on Tora Tora Tora That's for sure! It's been said that more money and effort went into the production than the Japanese spent on the actual attack. On a side note, I got to visit Pearl Harbor a few weeks ago and it was outstanding. A little bit of a bummer not getting on the Arizona Memorial (closed til Fall for repairs) but the new Aviation Museum was amazing, as was standing on the surrender deck of the Missouri battleship, and even battling claustrophobia while crouching through the Bowfin submarine tour. I highly recommend a day there to learn, pay respect, and also have fun. 2
stony Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Sign me up. Looks fun, don't know if it looks "good." Emmerich scares me as a director. Wife and I have a "one for you, one for me" movie going policy. This will definitely be a "one for me."
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said: That's for sure! It's been said that more money and effort went into the production than the Japanese spent on the actual attack. On a side note, I got to visit Pearl Harbor a few weeks ago and it was outstanding. A little bit of a bummer not getting on the Arizona Memorial (closed til Fall for repairs) but the new Aviation Museum was amazing, as was standing on the surrender deck of the Missouri battleship, and even battling claustrophobia while crouching through the Bowfin submarine tour. I highly recommend a day there to learn, pay respect, and also have fun. The Arizona Memorial I believe was hit by a tug, etc... Some time ago. Is that the repairs? If so, still fixing! 14 minutes ago, stony said: Sign me up. Looks fun, don't know if it looks "good." Emmerich scares me as a director. Wife and I have a "one for you, one for me" movie going policy. This will definitely be a "one for me." LoL... I still remember a few of my parents. My father would pick The Deer Hunter and First Blood (Rambo)... LoL... Real dousy movies that my mother surely loved! LMAO! 1
NobesBLO13 Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 I was excited until I saw it was Roland Emmerich. Not a fan. He found a way to ruin Godzilla I certainly don’t trust him to tell the story of midway.
coloradobillsfan Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: The Arizona Memorial I believe was hit by a tug, etc... Some time ago. Is that the repairs? If so, still fixing! from the NPS web site: Quote The USS Arizona Memorial is closed to visitation due to a failure of the anchoring system for its dock. The anchor system failure occurred due to natural variables related to sediment in Pearl Harbor. 1
IslandBillsFan Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 I love WW2 history but unfortunately this reminds me of the Pearl Harbor abomination. Too many piney shots of families and women. It also stars Mandy Moore which is concerning. Additionally, the trailer promotes it as being from the same director as Independence Day. Although Independence Day was a decent movie for me in my teens it does not hold up well except for nostalgic purposes. The director, Roland Emmerich, has a slew of bombs under his belt. For example, 2012, 10,000 BC, The Patriot, Godzilla.... 1
John from Riverside Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Tell the story the way it should be told 1
Mark Vader Posted July 1, 2019 Author Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, stony said: Sign me up. Looks fun, don't know if it looks "good." Emmerich scares me as a director. Wife and I have a "one for you, one for me" movie going policy. This will definitely be a "one for me." 2 hours ago, NobesBLO13 said: I was excited until I saw it was Roland Emmerich. Not a fan. He found a way to ruin Godzilla I certainly don’t trust him to tell the story of midway. 47 minutes ago, IslandBillsFan said: I love WW2 history but unfortunately this reminds me of the Pearl Harbor abomination. Too many piney shots of families and women. It also stars Mandy Moore which is concerning. Additionally, the trailer promotes it as being from the same director as Independence Day. Although Independence Day was a decent movie for me in my teens it does not hold up well except for nostalgic purposes. The director, Roland Emmerich, has a slew of bombs under his belt. For example, 2012, 10,000 BC, The Patriot, Godzilla.... Yes, Roland Emmerich does make me very nervous about this movie. Not that thrilled about Mandy Moore either, but Patrick Wilson, Aaron Eckhart & Woody Harrelson are positive signs. I was excited when I had heard that they were making this movie, but knowing who the director is, gives me pause. Although, I may still end up seeing it. Please, be good.
T&C Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 5 hours ago, sherpa said: i hope they get it right and don't turn it into some stupid love story to attract women, as they did doing Pearl Harbor. I really hope they give significant consideration to the points made in "Shattered Sword," which refutes a lot of the silly nonsense , and tells the true story from the Japanese tactical doctrine and procedural practices. As a student of the battle of Midway, I can't wait. I watched this for the first time last week and at some point later into it I hit the jettison button... told the wife this is just like titanic.
KD in CA Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: Not that thrilled about Mandy Moore either But Silver N Red must be pumped. 1
Mark Vader Posted July 2, 2019 Author Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, T&C said: I watched this for the first time last week and at some point later into it I hit the jettison button... told the wife this is just like titanic. Except "Titanic" was a good movie. Overrated, but good.
sherpa Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 For a Western New York connection, and we have talked about it before, LCDR Wade McClusky, from Buffalo, was credited by ADM Nimitz with deciding the fate of the US carrier task force. In short, though low on fuel, McClusky's decision to follow a Japanese destroyer steaming at flank speed led his formation to the Japanese carriers. He was serving as Enterprise's Air Wing Commander at the time. To this day, the Navy's award for the most outstanding attack squadron is named after him. Lesser known trivia about Midway. It was claimed as a US possession in 1867 by the USS Lackawanna. 1 1
eball Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 11 hours ago, IslandBillsFan said: The Patriot You didn't like The Patriot? I thought it was fantastic -- although I also wasn't just looking for 100% Revolutionary War accuracy.
4merper4mer Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 11 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Tell the story the way it should be told Are you saying Jeff Goldblum didn't sneak on a Japanese carrier and give it a computer virus? 3
Cripple Creek Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 13 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I still remember a few of my parents. How many parents did you have? The standard number is 2 which is less than a few. 4
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 sorry @Mark Vader but you can't avoid the "love story angle". These guys have to fight for someone they love 23 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: How many parents did you have? The standard number is 2 which is less than a few. well, you see, at an ***** it's hard to tell how many
US Egg Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 15 hours ago, RochesterRob said: The bar is not set too high when looking at the Charlton Heston pic from 1976. That could apply to pretty much every movie Heston made.....except "Soylent Green".? He just wasn't that good of an actor imo.
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