Happy Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: 2-14 without an injury to Allen and they still don't happen? What if they are 4-12 and Allen is benched after 10 games? In the cases you laid out, there probably will be talk among the owners and F.O. staff. I think these cases are highly unlikely which is why I framed my first sentence the way I did.
MJS Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 I don't think this year he will be extended OR fired, regardless of the (realistic) outcome.
DC Tom Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Fired? Pegula would have to say "Get out of here." Extended? Pegula would have to say "Here's more money." 2
oldmanfan Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 If he loses the locker room it would warrant looking elsewhere. But that's not going to happen.
Rico Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 A proven failure like Doug Whaley got 4 years. Hard to imagine McD or Beane getting any less than that from Pegs, especially after breaking the drought in their first year... something truly heinous would have to happen. As for extension, he’s only starting year 3 of a 5 year contract, too early to do anything unless maybe an AFC East title & 1-2 playoff wins. SB win, then absolutely. 2
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Through 2 years Coach A: 14-18, -113 point differential, inherited a 5-11 team coach B: 15-17, -162 point differential, inherited a 7-9 team if Mcdermott wins 10+, extension. If he has a losing record, barring a major qb injury or just awful luck and Allen shows progress, he gets fired. Besides being a nice guy, what has he shown that is elite? It’s the nfl. You don’t need 5 years to turn around teams anymore. And coach A was Dick Jauron. 1
Thurman#1 Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Fired? Lose the locker room and win 2 - 4 games looking awful. Extended? Why? Too early. He's hired for this year and two more. But playing the game, they reach the AFC championship game. Chance of either happening, maybe 1%. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) Answer is neither, this is likely a mute point thread as neither scenario is realistic. Nothing is impossible, but below are why this really is a premature thread that likely will have neither of these outcomes. The season would have to be a disaster for him to get fired. And there is almost no chance this year is worse than last year with all the development we saw down the stretch of Allen, Edmunds, and Foster to go with all the new additions to significantly upgrade what was last year mostly a terrible group of receivers, tight ends, and offensive lineman. Plus we got Milano back, lots of strong depth at CB, a healthy Murphy, and of course Oliver to elevate what was already a solid defense. Even if injuries happened that made the season fall apart, I don't think he would get fired for that this season. McD is already gaining a lot of respect around the league as a top young coach, I don't think he on any kind of a short leash at this year. There is also probably little chance he gets extended this year given he has a 5 year contract. But for argument sake, I guess an extension could happen if he either: Wins the division. Wins a playoff game. Gets double digit wins could do it if the team finished the season strong. If he starts hot and goes 5-1 to start the season, but then finishes 5-5 down the stretch for instance, not sure the double digit wins quite does the trick on its own unless he made some noise in the playoffs.. But say we started 2-3 but then started to really gel the new pieces and he finished 8-3 down the stretch with some big wins, I could see them considering it. Edited June 26, 2019 by Alphadawg7
GunnerBill Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Regression from last season's win total (excluding major injury to Josh) = fired. A playoff run (ie. Getting in and winning a game or two) = possible extension.
Coach Tuesday Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Firing is highly unlikely in 2019/2020 offseason unless something happens that embarrasses the owners, and/or they’re lied to about something significant. That seems to be what drives their decisions more than anything else.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 ....far too early for EITHER to be considered......unless you prefer reuniting the "Russ-Wrecks-Whaley Team" to get us to the promised land.......... 1
fansince88 Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 10 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: If he averages more than 74 claps per game he's fired....under that I'll extend. I disagree. If it is 74+ claps for TD and getting the turnover then that is good. If is 74+ claps for "well, you tried but fell short" then bring out the ax. In all seriousness, he aint getting fired. This thing is happening boys and girls!
vorpma Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Just reading this script, man! Fire everybody, no Super Bowl win, fire everybody again - the "informed fan's" mantra!
BarleyNY Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Fired? Lose the locker room and win 2 - 4 games looking awful. Extended? Why? Too early. He's hired for this year and two more. But playing the game, they reach the AFC championship game. Chance of either happening, maybe 1%. Glad you saw he is on a 5 year contract. I couldn’t find that info. If that’s the case, then I think you nailed it.
vorpma Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Through 2 years Coach A: 14-18, -113 point differential, inherited a 5-11 team coach B: 15-17, -162 point differential, inherited a 7-9 team if Mcdermott wins 10+, extension. If he has a losing record, barring a major qb injury or just awful luck and Allen shows progress, he gets fired. Besides being a nice guy, what has he shown that is elite? It’s the nfl. You don’t need 5 years to turn around teams anymore. And coach A was Dick Jauron. Fire everybody.
HOUSE Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 If the Pegulas like him in January he stays if not he goes...
downunderbill Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, vorpma said: Fire everybody. And get this Jauron fella on the phone! 1
Another Fan Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Breaking the drought pretty much bought him three years to do his thing or trust the process so to speak. Hes not going to get fired this year but I do think he’s under the microscope a little more this year vs last
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) it is his 3rd year as the coach in Buffalo. extension - Super Bowl Victory what "could" get him fired would be going 4-12 (but that aint happening) Edited June 26, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, vorpma said: Fire everybody, no Super Bowl win, fire everybody again - the "informed fan's" mantra! ....yup......fire 'em all and just keep bringing more in....... 1
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