Inigo Montoya Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) I have been reading up on Ed Oliver's draft evaluations and the frequent comparisons to Aaron Donald (it's going to be a long time until training camp...). I decided to look at what Donald did in his rookie campaign. He played in all 16 games, starting in 12 of them. He recorded 9 sacks his rookie season. I though we could do an over / under on Oliver's sack total this year based on Donald's first season where he had 9 sacks. Might want to add why you feel that way too. Aaron Donald Career Stats Games Def Interceptions Fumbles Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int Yds TD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds TD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits Sfty AV Career 78 74 0 0 0 0 9 13 0 4 40 0 59.5 263 189 74 97 149 76 2014* 23 STL LDT/rdt 99 16 12 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 9.0 47 37 10 18 13 11 2015*+ 24 STL LDT 99 16 16 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 40 0 11.0 69 43 26 22 37 20 2016*+ 25 LAR dt/LDT 99 16 16 0 0 0 0 5 2 0 0 0 0 8.0 47 36 11 17 31 15 2017*+ 26 LAR DT/lb 99 14 14 0 0 0 0 1 5 0 1 0 0 11.0 41 32 9 15 27 15 2018*+ 27 LAR DT 99 16 16 0 0 0 0 1 4 0 2 0 0 20.5 59 41 18 25 41 15 So plant your flag. Go for broke. Make a stand. Go all in. Be bold. Draw a line in the sand. Ed Oliver Sacks 2019; Over / Under 9 I think Oliver is landing in a good situation in Buffalo. I think he will benefit from defensive coaching that will scheme to get him production. McDermott and Frazier like to rotate DTs so Oliver should still be fresh in the 4th quarter of games when the 300 lb lineman opposite him are wearing down. Having Hughes coming off the edge will help flush the QB up in the pocket where Oliver will be pushing. Oliver is quick enough to stunt with Hughes and create mismatches all along the line and sow havoc with blocking assignments for the offensive lineman. I'd be shocked if he doesn't get at least 10 sacks this season. Inigo says anything less than 9 is INCONCEIVABLE! I say over. Edited June 15, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 1 2
fansince88 Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 Im going to go out on a limb and say there is a 50% chance it is 9 or over and a 50% chance it is 9 or under. 1 4 1
Inigo Montoya Posted June 15, 2019 Author Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, fansince88 said: Im going to go out on a limb and say there is a 50% chance it is 9 or over and a 50% chance it is 9 or under. Gutsy call!
Augie Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 I’ll guess under, but think I’ll still be happy when the season is over. ?
Rocket94 Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) I bet he gets around 10-11 true sacks. His speed and twitch is going to confuse defenses for awhile. It depends how he is going to be utilized...he will be disruptive. I have a feeling he will spending a lot of time in the opposing backfield. Therefore just above a 50% chance of 9+ Edited June 15, 2019 by Rocket94
Augie Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Im going to go out on a limb and say there is a 50% chance it is 9 or over and a 50% chance it is 9 or under. I’m not a gambler, but I am willing to bet there is a 100% chance it is one or the other. Any takers? If he gets 7 sacks with penetration to mess up run plays I’ll be happy. Any more and I’m thrilled, 1
fansince88 Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Gutsy call! Yeah, I just have no clue what to put down on it. I was thinking 10$ on the over and 10$ on the other....but Im not telling my wife. What you think?
Inigo Montoya Posted June 15, 2019 Author Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, fansince88 said: Yeah, I just have no clue what to put down on it. I was thinking 10$ on the over and 10$ on the other....but Im not telling my wife. What you think? I agree. Don't tell your wife. ? 1
Augie Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, fansince88 said: Yeah, I just have no clue what to put down on it. I was thinking 10$ on the over and 10$ on the other....but Im not telling my wife. What you think? Will your wife notice? That’s the tipping point. 1
fansince88 Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Augie said: Will your wife notice? That’s the tipping point. 6 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: I agree. Don't tell your wife. ? Id kick in more but I have a wedding to pay for in August and we are getting the sausage as an add on so.... 1
whatdrought Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 Well, Kyle has averaged 4 in the past two years under McD. I think it’s stretch to say Oliver comes in a whole lot higher than that. I’d say 6 is a realistic number. I do think they will be working hard to generate pressure in creative ways, and that might free him up for sacks, but I doubt he gets a ton. I think over under on Jerry should be set at 9 and the over under on Murphy should be set at 5. for that I’d take the over on both. 2
Augie Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, fansince88 said: Id kick in more but I have a wedding to pay for in August and we are getting the sausage as an add on so.... CONGRATULATIONS! Adding on the sausage is always a tough choice...but the way to go. I expect a wedding in our not too distant future. Our son’s GF used to be a wedding planner, did over 300 a year. She thinks people are CRAZY with how much they spend! She wants to keep is small, then we put together just our side of “must have family”, and I see how it gets out of control. It’s a fine down payment on a house!
fansince88 Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: CONGRATULATIONS! Adding on the sausage is always a tough choice...but the way to go. I expect a wedding in our not too distant future. Our son’s GF used to be a wedding planner, did over 300 a year. She thinks people are CRAZY with how much they spend! She wants to keep is small, then we put together just our side of “must have family”, and I see how it gets out of control. It’s a fine down payment on a house! Haha. We are going to be over 200 people. Large italian family on both sides.
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