transient Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 That's odd... I guess I must have tripped and fallen into the "punchable face" thread.
formerlyofCtown Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 10:26 PM, MJS said: Like every single season. He has a new job for a new team every single year. Expand Maybe hes a HC killer but he seems to lose his job when there is a change in HC most of the time.
formerlyofCtown Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 2:27 AM, DanInUticaTampa said: Commish even said, "don't worry about to Rooney rule, you are just that special, Greggo!" He pretty much got fired because he is a polarizing personality. He has some some serious issues and he is very difficult to work with. He might be a good defensive coach on paper, but his personality is pretty much locker room cancer Expand I could see that. I know he has been fired but Ive always liked him as a DC Ive never heard anything about what youre saying from anyone I would put stock into. The NO firing was completely a political move. He did a good job as IHC in Clev. He had 3 Top 10 Ds in Wash. So There may be something to what youre saying. 1
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 Talent craps on culture after chewing on strategy 2
BigDingus Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Just like "Character" and "High-Motor" players beat out talent and skills? I wish it were true, but I'm pretty sure strategy wins out MOST of the time. Edited June 14, 2019 by BigDingus 1
MJS Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 3:24 AM, formerlyofCtown said: Maybe hes a HC killer but he seems to lose his job when there is a change in HC most of the time. Expand His contract is terminated. That means he's fired. New coaches could easily keep him around. On 6/14/2019 at 3:29 AM, formerlyofCtown said: I could see that. I know he has been fired but Ive always liked him as a DC Ive never heard anything about what youre saying from anyone I would put stock into. The NO firing was completely a political move. He did a good job as IHC in Clev. He had 3 Top 10 Ds in Wash. So There may be something to what youre saying. Expand He's been on hard knocks a bunch and everyone has seen first hand what a crappy person he is. Plus the fact that he got caught in the bounty gate scandal. Plus all the ridiculous things he says all the time. He's just a buffoon, and his defenses haven't been that good over the past couple years. Very aggressive but they give up a lot yards and big plays.
Captain Murica Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 3:11 PM, thenorthremembers said: Cant be culture. Listen to WGR they will tell you repeatedly that culture doesnt mean anything in sports. Expand That’s because shmeremy Shite and Mike Slopp are the smartest men alive when it comes to sports.
formerlyofCtown Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 4:08 AM, MJS said: His contract is terminated. That means he's fired. New coaches could easily keep him around. He's been on hard knocks a bunch and everyone has seen first hand what a crappy person he is. Plus the fact that he got caught in the bounty gate scandal. Plus all the ridiculous things he says all the time. He's just a buffoon, and his defenses haven't been that good over the past couple years. Very aggressive but they give up a lot yards and big plays. Expand Bounty Gate-What all teams did for a long time. Football is a violent sport and used to be even more violent. You are correct though. What he did wrong was get caught. 1
thenorthremembers Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 5:01 AM, Captain Murica said: That’s because shmeremy Shite and Mike Slopp are the smartest men alive when it comes to sports. Expand I am sure they know a ton about soccer.
Phil The Thrill Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 2:51 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand Mike Schopp disagrees
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 12:07 PM, Phil The Thrill said: Mike Schopp disagrees Expand Interesting and original take!
Captain Murica Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 10:48 AM, thenorthremembers said: I am sure they know a ton about soccer. Expand Only place I go for fantasy football advice.
NewCastleFanBills Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 He also said Buffalo would have the greatest defense in their history, when Ralph hired him. So I don't buy anything that pours out of that hole in his face.
row_33 Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 3:30 AM, Ethan in Portland said: Talent craps on culture after chewing on strategy Expand Pats have culture and talent.
SoTier Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 2:02 AM, Doc Brown said: He falls into that good coordinator that will never be a good head coach category. He also seems to be a pretty terrible human being. Expand This. He seems to have figured out that he should hone what he did best, which is being a DC, and he's been very successful at it. Like many successful people in many endeavors, he's not a particularly a decent person.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 In one single post, the good bot caused all the Schopp disciples' heads to explode.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 2:18 AM, LSHMEAB said: Exactly. I don't care about 4.3 40's, rocket arms, recovery speed, or even technique. You give me a team full of gritsters with a touch of moxie and we're going to the Promised Land. No doubt in my mind. Expand Sure. They tried that experiment with Levy as GM. It doesn't work. On 6/14/2019 at 1:29 PM, row_33 said: Pats have culture and talent. Expand Pats have talent and culture in that order.
Fan in Chicago Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 Talent and (execution of) strategy will trump culture. GM Levy had culture, Jauron tried culture and both with terrible results. As in business, so with sports you absolutely need to set a strategy and have the horses to execute it. On 6/14/2019 at 2:05 PM, Ethan in Portland said: Pats have talent and culture in that order. Expand Pats have strategy (read: coaching) and add talent that fits that plan. The culture just comes by with all the winning. 2
buffaloboyinATL Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 I know name calling is not allowed on TBD, but am I allowed to point out that Gregg Williams is an arrogant douche? 1
row_33 Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 2:13 PM, Fan in Chicago said: Talent and (execution of) strategy will trump culture. GM Levy had culture, Jauron tried culture and both with terrible results. As in business, so with sports you absolutely need to set a strategy and have the horses to execute it. Pats have strategy (read: coaching) and add talent that fits that plan. The culture just comes by with all the winning. Expand Your sour grapes are causing a lot of blindness there.... The Pats have a culture of winning that is up there with Lombardi and other dynasties. 1
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