PromoTheRobot Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, unbillievable said: He's saying the average man is more atheletic than an Olympic woman. There's a big gap between the elite women's teams and most of the tournament field. But a good fight is always entertaining. You could tell there was bad blood between England and Scotland. Japan/Argentina @12 and Canada/Cameroon @3 today. USA/Thailand is @3 Tuesday, last match of the opening round. Edited June 10, 2019 by PromoTheRobot
eball Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 The only games I'll watch are the US women...I just can't stay interested in women's soccer and basketball because the level of athleticism/speed is so far below the men's game. I don't think that makes me a misogynist -- I just enjoy the men's game more and if I have limited time to watch sporting events I'll choose just about anything over a women's team game. One notable exception is women's volleyball -- both indoor and beach. Love watching both of these during the Olympics.
unbillievable Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: There's a big gap between the elite women's teams and most of the tournament field. But a good fight is always entertaining. You could tell there was bad blood between England and Scotland. Japan/Argentina @12 and Canada/Cameroon @3 today. USA/Thailand is @3 Tuesday, last match of the opening round. If it's entertaining to watch equally matched opponents, then just send a bunch of 5yr olds out there.
unbillievable Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, eball said: The only games I'll watch are the US women...I just can't stay interested in women's soccer and basketball because the level of athleticism/speed is so far below the men's game. I don't think that makes me a misogynist -- I just enjoy the men's game more and if I have limited time to watch sporting events I'll choose just about anything over a women's team game. One notable exception is women's volleyball -- both indoor and beach. Love watching both of these during the Olympics. Women's sports that excel above men's usually involve some form of balance; like dance. So the only women's sports I pay attention to are gymnastics and figure skating. Volleyball, never did anything for me. 1
PromoTheRobot Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, unbillievable said: If it's entertaining to watch equally matched opponents, then just send a bunch of 5yr olds out there. I'll watch what I want.
LeGOATski Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 6 hours ago, unbillievable said: He's saying the average man is more atheletic than an Olympic woman. And that kid he knew could be more athletic than some men on the Olympic team. The difference is that they're just MUCH better at soccer than him. The women aren't there because they're super fast and strong. They're in the Olympics because they're great at soccer.
BeginnersMind Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) Please share your thoughts with your daughters and daughters of your friends. I don't mean summarize it, let them see what you said and what others are saying about the best soccer players in the world, because they are women. It's good that they know people like you exist, not just in theory, but in their lives. -- On to the soccer, the USWNT team is the best but the world continues to close the gap. In the last few cups, there was maybe one team each year (or 2 max) that could take them out in any given match. Now that number is 4-5. They should cruise through the Group stage except for maybe a little competition from Sweden. These first 3 games are a warm-up for them. Sinclair could break Wambach's record in this World Cup. That would be fun--she will definitely break the record, but better to do it on this stage than some other match that won't get as much attention. Edited June 10, 2019 by BeginnersMind 1
bbb Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 I only get annoyed by cries from WNBA and USWNT members for equal pay, when clearly they don't rake in an equal amount of money. This type of crowd wouldn't be seen at any men's WC game: 1
PromoTheRobot Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, bbb said: I only get annoyed by cries from WNBA and USWNT members for equal pay, when clearly they don't rake in an equal amount of money. This type of crowd wouldn't be seen at any men's WC game: a) They aren't asking for equal pay, just pay commensurate with the revenue they generate. b) FIFA isn't giving away TV rights for this, are they?
bbb Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: a) They aren't asking for equal pay, just pay commensurate with the revenue they generate. b) FIFA isn't giving away TV rights for this, are they? a) For soccer: Abby Wambach Won’t Stop Until the U.S. Women’s Soccer Team Gets Equal Pay https://www.glamour.com/story/abby-wambach-womens-soccer-lawsuit-interview For the WNBA, I think that would mean the players would be paying to play, since the NBA losses money on it. b.) I have no idea what that means. 1
PromoTheRobot Posted June 11, 2019 Author Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, bbb said: a) For soccer: Abby Wambach Won’t Stop Until the U.S. Women’s Soccer Team Gets Equal Pay https://www.glamour.com/story/abby-wambach-womens-soccer-lawsuit-interview For the WNBA, I think that would mean the players would be paying to play, since the NBA losses money on it. b.) I have no idea what that means. B) means that FIFA gets TV $$$$ that ought to go to the players in a proportional manner Just curious, why so upset over people trying to do better for themselves?
bbb Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: B) means that FIFA gets TV $$$$ that ought to go to the players in a proportional manner Just curious, why so upset over people trying to do better for themselves? So, you make a claim in A saying that I'm wrong. I show evidence that I'm right, and then you just skip to B? I am all for people bettering themselves. What I'm not for is making up victimhood excuses to do so. For soccer, if your assertion "They aren't asking for equal pay, just pay commensurate with the revenue they generate" is or was right, I'd be 100% good with that..............Also, I do not know where the money comes from for the USWNT. They probably are as popular as the men's team in the US. I know more players and have for 20 years than I do on the men's side................But, I would think part of their money is based on entire world of FIFA/World Cup or whatever. And, there's no way you would see any men's WC game with 1/3 of the seats filled.............Especially between Scotland and England, when the game is in France. So, I'm open to hearing where the money comes from for the mens and womens national teams. As for basketball, I saw Breann Stewart get the ESPY after her senior year and then get up and complain about women's salaries. She wasn't even a pro yet..................And, unless things have changed, and I've done research and have not found that they have, the league losses money for the NBA. I saw a writer on twitter complain that the WNBA needs to expand because Cierra Dillard got cut after only 6 days (after the media has a big party because she got drafted) - because there are only 144 spots in the league............I asked the writer "Doesn't the league lose money?" and of course, never got a reply. Don't give me feels. Give me numbers.
ALF Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 USA v. Venezuela, 2019 friendly: What we learned (men's soccer) The game sucked. The US played sloppily and got sucker punched to a 3-nil defeat. And here’s an attempt at what happened and what we can take away from it. https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2019/6/10/18659363/usa-v-venezuela-2019-friendly-what-we-learned
BeginnersMind Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 Today’s game should be a breeze. Still good to see them work into form for Chile and Sweden. Ellis should be able to rest anyone in need of some time off. Lots of youth on this team that will love their first World Cup.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said: Is it over yet? is what over? I thought I had heard that the women's game was later today.
May Day 10 Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 On 6/10/2019 at 9:54 AM, eball said: The only games I'll watch are the US women...I just can't stay interested in women's soccer and basketball because the level of athleticism/speed is so far below the men's game. I don't think that makes me a misogynist -- I just enjoy the men's game more and if I have limited time to watch sporting events I'll choose just about anything over a women's team game. One notable exception is women's volleyball -- both indoor and beach. Love watching both of these during the Olympics. I agree (other than watching/caring about US women's team). I feel 'ashamed' to admit so much I guess.... but I cant lie about it. I feel the same about outdoor lacrosse. I think Women's hockey has potential to have entertainment value in the professional setting. The 'men' pros are just so fast, strong, and efficient, often times in the regular season its just a slog. Women have more space to make plays on the ice surface. A live setting is a good minor league atmosphere without the cloud of 'development' that hangs over the AHL. I dont think I would go out of my way to follow and watch it because my time is finite, but it isnt bad. Women's Ice Hockey on an international level though is a joke other than Canada vs USA. US and Canada are just many miles ahead of everybody else, it is stupid.
PromoTheRobot Posted June 11, 2019 Author Posted June 11, 2019 USA beatdown so far. Nice show for a sold out stadium. American Outlaws representing. 2
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